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Post by daves on Apr 11, 2013 23:19:53 GMT -5
Trying really hard not to rant about the Southern dog situation here. I might suggest that the managers of the Petsmarts that host the EHR adoption days be made aware of that sick dogs are being offered for adoption at their stores. It probably wouldn't hurt to also contact someone at Petsmart corporate. Let them know that their stores association with a rescue that does substandard medical treatment is putting the health of dogs at risk that are brought into their stores by their customers.
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Post by maryellen on Apr 12, 2013 6:17:34 GMT -5
petsmart doesnt care- i have already said something to the managers at the one up here in newton. the adoptions bring $$$$$$$ to their store as when the people adopt the dogs they spend at least $300 on supplies that same day.....
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Post by michele5611 on Apr 12, 2013 7:13:42 GMT -5
Trying really hard not to rant about the Southern dog situation here. I might suggest that the managers of the Petsmarts that host the EHR adoption days be made aware of that sick dogs are being offered for adoption at their stores. It probably wouldn't hurt to also contact someone at Petsmart corporate. Let them know that their stores association with a rescue that does substandard medical treatment is putting the health of dogs at risk that are brought into their stores by their customers. Feel free to rant Daves. I am sure you deal with this a lot. Since the local managers don't seem to care I think it is worth it to write corporate. If enough people contact them you never know.
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Post by daves on Apr 12, 2013 10:42:56 GMT -5
Unless the adoption contract contains specific language to require using the rescues vet I would think that filing a small claims court case might get some attention. NJ also has pet Lemon Law that may apply:
"New Jersey's pet buyer protection laws cover anyone selling pets for profit, which in practice exempts only humane societies and pounds. It covers pet stores, kennels and breeders, including hobby breeders. Pet buyers have 14 days to document that their pet has a contagious or infectious disease, 6 months to demonstrate a congenital or hereditary disease.
If the pet is ill or defective, the buyer has the right to either a replacement or a full refund plus, in both cases, full reimbursement of the cost of veterinary fees to certify that the dog was unfit for purchase."
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 12, 2013 10:48:03 GMT -5
^ I don't think the lemon laws apply to rescue groups.
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Post by michele5611 on Apr 12, 2013 10:51:52 GMT -5
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Post by megan on Apr 12, 2013 14:16:17 GMT -5
I told my friend she should take me to small claims court, but she's sort of in the honeymoon stage... "She's worth it." And that type of thing. I know where she's coming from, I should have done the same when Roxy came to me FULL of worms and with ear infections but I was just so happy to have her, that I didn't think about it. Most people feel that way, I think, and they don't feel like dealing with the legal issues or the hassle, they are just happy to have a fog they love.
Quite honestly, it's one of the major reasons that groups like SPBR have gotten away with things for so long despite adopters getting ill and disgustingly filthy dogs. And the same reason here, people just want the dog healthy, and they want to move on and be done its it.
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Post by michele5611 on Apr 12, 2013 14:25:41 GMT -5
You are right! People are either of that mentality where the dog is worth it and they are willing to do whatever it takes and or they are to apathetic to do anything about it. In essence this is why SPBR and the others get away with it and are never held accountable
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Post by megan on Apr 12, 2013 14:29:11 GMT -5
(Also, please excuse the massive amount of typing errors in my last post, I'm on a tablet and it apparently isn't that great lol.)
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Post by megan on Apr 12, 2013 14:34:00 GMT -5
The other thing my friend said is that I am more upset about it than she was.... And it's because I know this happens often. I'm on the "inside" and I see how easy it is to take. Dog to a vet, to do fecal checks and blood tests for dogs, and I see how many people come back to us and ask for reimbursement for vet bills, etc. when their adopted dog is sick. But she probably thinks its an isolated incident. And I'm sure that a lot of people think that, but the reality of it is that it's happening way too often and if people don't do anything about it, it will just keep happening until someone actually gets hurt or sick.
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Post by ames on Apr 13, 2013 13:09:43 GMT -5
What a horrible story. Why its so important to tell anyone not to adopt from petstores.
About the south, they typically have a much higher kill ratio and intake than places up north. Not sure why especially when you look at NYC urgent lists each week (and get depressed) I agree there re dogs everywhere. I hope she will not go this route next time.
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Post by michele5611 on Apr 13, 2013 15:16:22 GMT -5
Ames, just so you know she adopted the dog from a local "popular" NJ rescue who was hosting an adoption event at petstore.
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Post by seamonkey on Apr 13, 2013 17:00:14 GMT -5
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Sorry, reread the OP. I've never heard of a lung worm down here that is transmissible to humans! I know common things checked for at all our vet visits and vaccinations are fecals and heart worms and I know most vets have started giving the lepto vaccine. If you find out what it is, maybe I can ask around if it's something normally tested for here
Regardless of if your friend took the dog to your vet or theirs, their should be reimbursed. We had an issue with a cat we adopted who had wound up being tested for feline leukemia during the latency phase and we wound up having to put her to sleep and bring all of the other cats in to be tested and vaccinated for it. 3 of the cats were fosters for that rescue and I did not take the fosters to their vet. The rescue paid me back for all 3 fosters and every single one of my cats that I had to get tested
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Post by ames on Apr 13, 2013 21:53:01 GMT -5
Ames, just so you know she adopted the dog from a local "popular" NJ rescue who was hosting an adoption event at petstore. Oh wow, so scary. Sorry, I misunderstood.
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Post by megan on Apr 14, 2013 18:28:57 GMT -5
*edit* Sorry, reread the OP. I've never heard of a lung worm down here that is transmissible to humans! I know common things checked for at all our vet visits and vaccinations are fecals and heart worms and I know most vets have started giving the lepto vaccine. If you find out what it is, maybe I can ask around if it's something normally tested for here Regardless of if your friend took the dog to your vet or theirs, their should be reimbursed. We had an issue with a cat we adopted who had wound up being tested for feline leukemia during the latency phase and we wound up having to put her to sleep and bring all of the other cats in to be tested and vaccinated for it. 3 of the cats were fosters for that rescue and I did not take the fosters to their vet. The rescue paid me back for all 3 fosters and every single one of my cats that I had to get tested It's apparently a VERY uncommon / rare type of lung worm. And supposedly people are only at risk if they are handling the dog's feces, but, when you're talking about 4-5 year old child, there's a good chance the kid will accept dog kisses from a dog who just recently licked it's rear. They just don't understand any differently. I think more than anything I've been frustrated with the rescue's handling of the situation. They basically said, "Oh well, it happens." and moved on. Meanwhile, this dog was staying at an adoption facility where the public is constantly walking in. And lets say, although the staff do their best, it is nearly impossible to keep those facilities 100% clean, so if that dog defecated anywhere on the premises, it could have spread to people, and more than likely, it would have been to kids. That is beyond irresponsible. And I get it, it's a rare parasite so maybe it's not something that's tested for often, if at all, but her vet found it very easily (despite it not being possible to catch it up here) and it's apparently found by checking stool samples because that's where the eggs are and how it's spread. So, either the dog wasn't given a fecal test, or it wasn't read properly. I understand that mistakes happen and things can be missed. I truly do. But their lack of response to the situation is inexcusable, to say the least.
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