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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 30, 2009 16:24:14 GMT -5
What’s the difference between a Cane Corso and a Presa Canario? Are these dogs like APBT’s and get a bad name or are they “dangerous”? I know they are guarding breeds but with firm handling, can they be good family pets? I was at a dog show last summer a breeder of Presa Canarios was there. They had an adult male with them that was HUGE. The dog was a sweetie. I’ve heard a lot of bad things about both breeds but I haven’t had much experience with either. My parents had a Bull Mastiff when I was growing up but that’s the closest I’ve come to owning one of these dogs. I was on Diane Jessup’s website and she had a Cane Corso. On her site she says “Grim is the only good Corso I’ve met”. This made me wonder! Any opinions appreciated!
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Post by maryellen on Dec 30, 2009 17:50:22 GMT -5
they are great dogs if bred and raised correctly. most folks will say that american lines of these dogs are crap, and that if you want a true correct breed to go overseas. there are however really reputable breeders here in the US, you just have to find them. i have met a few of each, and both were true representatives of the breed.great temperment, excellent health. eventually in my life i will get one of them.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 30, 2009 21:45:52 GMT -5
There is a Cane Corso breeder about 1 hour from my home and they seem awesome. I have personally spoken with them and they are VERY kind and REALLY care about their dogs.
There dogs live right in there home with them and they begin socializing from day one.
They advised me not to adopt an adult Corso without SERIOUSLY testing their temperament (Because of how important it is for them to be socialized at a very young age).
I’m having troubles finding their website but if I do, I will post a link.
I think their dogs are beautiful and I would LOVE to have one someday!
I figured that these breeds were misunderstood just like our beloved Pit Bulls!
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Post by valliesong on Dec 30, 2009 22:47:16 GMT -5
We get them in shelters up here quite a bit. I have found Corsos to be more adaptable and although aloof, more accepting of strangers. It is actually normal for Filas to dislike strangers and I have seen numerous sources recommend that they not be kept in houses that get frequent visitors. They need a super-experienced guardian breed family. They are supposed to be great with their family, but not like visitors. Of course they are supposed to "judge" what is a real threat, but can we expect any dog to do that?
So overall I am more comfortable with Corsos than Filas, although I haven't met as many Filas. The ones I have met had their people, and made it quite known that they didn't want to deal with anyone else.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 31, 2009 1:07:37 GMT -5
I am really looking into Cane Corsos. Gustavo has been drawn to them ever since we spoke with that breeder. I guess it has spread it to me! I found this breeders website (Not the one in my area, different one) and they seem ethical! All their dogs’ hips have been tested and every pup comes with a 2 year health guarantee! www.castleguardcanecorso.com/I could definitely see us owning one someday; I just don’t know how soon that day will be. I think Gustavo would go buy one right now but I’m not ready for that! NO WAY! I want to do WAY more research on the breed before we have a 100+ pound dog on our hands! This is something we have been thinking about A LOT lately. We are getting ready to possibly get another dog (We still have A LOT of thinking to do). Boomer is having issues right now with males but he is a ladies’ man. A female can push him around and he just tolerates it. Honestly, I think he enjoys it… He likes his women tough! LOL! I know he would do fine with a female. I don’t know yet though. I’m such a “Pit Bull” gal! I will probably do all this research then end up adopting a sweet little APBT! There are so many wonderful different breeds out there, but once you have a Pit, it’s hard to get to enjoy those other breeds! You always want another APBT!!! I’m going to keep researching and looking around and we will see.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Dec 31, 2009 10:41:23 GMT -5
There was a male Corso at the dog park awhile back. The family kept him on his leash and he was not having such a great time. He was pretty dog aggressive and the family took him home after just a few minutes. Again, that is only one example of the breed. I'm sure there are wonderful dogs, but you'd have to be careful. I would only adopt a breed like that if I had a job for it to do. They are excellent watch dogs. My dog philosophy is, when the time is right and you are ready for another dog, adopt the one who needs you the most. I adopted Snorts on the day before his euthanasia. That's just me, though!
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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 31, 2009 12:26:37 GMT -5
I’ve wanted to compete in weight pulling, tracking, and perhaps obedience. So any dog (that’s in good health) that I get will have a job and plenty of exercise. Boomer has hip and knee problems otherwise he would be doing agility and weight pulling. I have had most people tell me that it is makes a HUGE difference if you socialize from day one. I really wish Boomer was fine with males because there is a Husky at a shelter in my area that is going to be euthanized next week. One of my friends just adopted a cat from that shelter and she said that he is the sweetest thing! I think I might go meet this little girl. I don’t know if I really want a pup (I would prefer an adult dog) but I will keep looking! Maybe I will meet her and decide that a pup isn’t a bad idea. I am home almost all the time so I have plenty time to train. www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=15379919I’m going to take my sweet time. Getting another dog is a HUGE decision. Making the wrong choice affects EVERYONE! I want to pick a dog that is the one MENT for our family: One who is a best friend to Avery (my 10 month old daughter), one who is GREAT with Boomer, and one who is a good companion to Gustavo and me as well.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 31, 2009 12:34:20 GMT -5
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Post by adoptapitbull on Dec 31, 2009 13:02:07 GMT -5
Petfinder is my weakness! My husband says I'm not allowed to go on anymore because each time I go, we get another dog But seriously, I can't afford or handle any more than 6 here!
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Post by AmyJo27 on Dec 31, 2009 13:25:16 GMT -5
I know how you feel adoptapitbull. I want to adopt them all (Don’t we all???)! I think visiting shelters is going to be hard for me. I have to prepare myself for the impact it has. Whenever I’m at a shelter and I walk into the “dog area” the barking always overwhelms me! I just want to take them all to my acreage and let them run around. I also have to practice self talk before going to a shelter. “Amy, this dog may NOT be the one! Don’t just adopt out of pity, find the RIGHT one!” I think I am going to call both shelters Monday and find out how these dogs are with kids and other dogs. Gustavo and I have been talking about this for a long time (We helped a breeder awhile back by taking a pup into our home for a few weeks and we of miss having dog # 2 around! I think Boomer secretly does too!) We have decided that it is time to begin looking for our next companion but we will not rush things. Heck, we might not have another dog by next year! Better to not get one at all then to get a dog that we will regret because it is just not the right match.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Dec 31, 2009 15:21:25 GMT -5
Exactly.
Don't even ask when/if they are going to be euthanized, because you know that you'll take her home no matter what. Find out as much as you can about the dog first, and decide if you think the dog will work for your family and Boomer. So many people get dogs because they're "pretty" or a breed they've always wanted, and then end up with issues! If you adopt with your brain and not with your heart, you'll be fine!
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Post by valliesong on Jan 2, 2010 21:29:48 GMT -5
I don't know why I was talking about filas. We get more Corsos around here. I haven't seen too many Presas.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Jan 2, 2010 23:22:59 GMT -5
I met a very friendly Dogo Argentino once. Poor girl had very poor hearing and was almost euthanized. A friend of mine adopted her, and she was just the sweetest dog. I mention Dogos because these are often confused with Pits just like Presas and Corsos. I almost adopted a deaf one myself, but the foster didn't want to travel to meet me. Poor pup is still waiting for that forever home.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Jan 2, 2010 23:47:49 GMT -5
I have actually met many friendly Dogos. I don’t know much about the breed but all the Dogos I have met have been sweet. They are also a pretty good sized dog as well. The ones I met probably weighed somewhere between 60-80 pounds.
They do look a lot like the APBT. I understand how people get confused.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Jan 3, 2010 14:18:05 GMT -5
They were orginally bred with the Cordoba Fighting Dog, which was just about the meanest SOB on the planet! I think they've been bred for long enough now that the CFD temperament probably doesn't pop up.
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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 4, 2010 10:15:51 GMT -5
Corsos are getting more popular, I think in many circles they are 'the new Pit Bull'. I've met some really nice Presas. Temp-wise, they are a totally different animal from the APBT. True, properly bred APBTs look NOTHING and act NOTHING like proper Corsos or Presas. They are both sort of turning into fad breeds, so I'd say research really really really carefully, take your time, talk to lots of people, probably try to reach out to people overseas to get their take on the breed(s), and don't rush into anything! Make sure that a guarding-mastiff breed is really what you want - because for most people dogs like Presas, Canrios, Filas, Neos, etc, are too much dog (IMO).
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Post by AmyJo27 on Jan 4, 2010 15:40:05 GMT -5
I’m doing a lot of research! I actually emailed a breeder (http://www.castleguardcanecorso.com/) that appears to be ethical for more info on the breed and her dogs. All their dogs are imported, all hips are tested and so far, they seem like great breeders. I have never been one to rush into things and this will be no different. I have seen far too many people rush into a dog, then end up paying the price later! Here is the email I sent and the response I received: Here’s the email I sent- Hello! My name is Amy; I live on a small acreage outside of a little town in Iowa. I have a neutered American Pit Bull Terrier (male) that is 2 ½ years old and a 10 month old daughter. My boyfriend and I have been researching different breeds to decide which to bring into our family.
We do not want a dog for breeding. Our reasoning for wanting another dog is just to have another member of the family! I have always grown up around the "under dogs" (The ones that society likes to look down upon) American Pit Bull Terriers are my main breed of choice, I LOVE them. My boyfriend quickly fell head over heels for them as well!
I have spent a lot of time researching the Cane Corso breed and decided that this may be the next breed for my family and I!
I have visited MANY breeders’ websites and I want you to know, your breeding program is amazing! I was to see that all your dogs’ hips had been tested. My APBT is only 2 ½ years old and already has hip dysplasia and serious knee problems (which required surgery) due to poor breeding and I will not make the same mistake twice! I had a few questions regarding your dogs! -Do you ship dogs/puppies? - Have you experienced any serious aggression within your kennels (Dog aggression, human aggression, food aggression, ANY aggression issues)? - Do you crop/dock pups tails and ears or is that up to the buyer? - Do you currently have dogs/pups available? - How many times a year do you have pups available? - How many times will you breed a female before fixing/retiring her? Hope to hear from you soon! Thank you! -Amy JoHere is the response- Hi Amy Jo, Thank you for your compliments of our dogs. We are Corso crazy here and they are our life! I am happy to answer your questions. 1. Yes we ship. 2. The Corso is a dominate, guardian breed. They can be bossy and territorial. Aggression is not the appropriate word to use. Some pups need to be corrected for being bossy about food. Certain dogs have to be taught not to try and protect their territory from other dogs. ALL Corsi have a potential to need this type of training. It’s the breed. A buyer should be fully aware of and willing to implement proper pack order. 3. I allow clients to choose whether to crop a companion puppy's ears or not. 4. I do have puppies here now. But they are have been sold for some time. We are planning a spring litter or maybe two. Folks have to put a deposit down and be willing to wait for one of our pups. We don't have them all the time and the schedule is based on what we are looking for in our program and wanting to keep. We keep pups from every litter for ourselves. 5. An average girl here gives us 2-3 litters and is retired to sleep on someone else’s couch. Hope that covers it. Let me know if you have more I am really drawn to the Cane Corso breed though, I will admit that. So far, I’ve heard good things. I have done lots of research online but that’s just not enough! I may contact the breeder in my area and maybe have a kennel visit. Don’t worry guys; I would not bring a dog into my family that we would not be able to handle! This is a HUGE decision that is going to be made wisely!
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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 4, 2010 16:26:51 GMT -5
Hey Amy, I have no doubt you will go about this the right way Sorry if I implied I thought you would rush into anything. I was speaking in more generalized terms. I'm interested in seeing how things pan out and what you learn about the breed, so I hope you keep updating this thread as you go along!
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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 4, 2010 16:28:19 GMT -5
I just looked at Castle Guard's website. Their dogs are DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!
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Post by AmyJo27 on Jan 4, 2010 17:47:57 GMT -5
Mary, I didn’t think you were implying anything! LOL! I just wanted to let everyone know that I WILL NOT impulse buy.
One GREAT thing I learned is that they are incredibly gentle with children and great with other pets. That’s a big one for me of course!
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