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Post by sugar on Mar 22, 2011 7:43:55 GMT -5
ME, Chubby has allergies to all kinds of poultry so what other critters could work if not using lamb/beef for consumption?
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Post by michele5611 on Mar 22, 2011 7:56:09 GMT -5
Sugar you can use venison and rabbit as well.
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Post by maryellen on Mar 22, 2011 16:01:49 GMT -5
venison, rabbit, rats hamsters, pheasant, if you go on hare-today.com they have all baby animals, baby turkeys, etc.... lamb, goat, beef, elk, salmon, ostrich, piglets etc...basically if it walks and is an animal you can pretty much feed it..
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Post by sugar on May 18, 2011 11:57:16 GMT -5
I've been going through the hare-today.com website (really great pricing options!). Would beef gullet be a good bone option for Chubbys (he loves the beef trachea chews I get him from Jefferspet.com). It says its high in the stuff that will ease his joint issues.
Also, would the ground beef mix (muscle,bones,organs,tripe) be a good option for him? I was thinking if supplementing it with some salmon oil and fruits/veggies (mostly just because he loves fruits and veggies).
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Post by sugar on May 18, 2011 12:57:18 GMT -5
Also, I see they offer whole ground rabbits, which includes everything (except the stomach and instestines). This apparently also includes the fur. It says it has the "added benefit of insoluable fiber". Is that true? Never seen that before.
Would the fur cause stomach upset or some kind of blockage?
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Post by sugar on Jun 1, 2011 11:12:35 GMT -5
So i just placed my first order with Hare-Today.com
1-Beef Gullet, 3 lb 2- Ground Beef/Organs/Tripe and Bone, 5 lb, Medium Grind 1- Ground Goat/Bones/Organs, 3 lb, Course Ground 1- Whole Sardines, 2 lb
I give him dehydrated beef trachea already so I think he'll like the gullets( plus they have lots of cartilage which should be good for his joints). What do you guys think? I figured if I needed more muscle meat I could just get some ground beef close by until I can fine tune the feeding more. I got the fish to keep up with his omega 3's.
Also, someone suggested getting one of those baby changing pads to give Chubby the gullet on (so he won't get it on my carpet).
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Post by michele5611 on Jun 1, 2011 11:27:39 GMT -5
Looks good. Can't wait to hear how it all goes!
As far as the changing pads....I started with a towel and would put Harley's bone on it. It wasn't big enough as she moved the bone around too much. I then ended up putting the bones on big garbage bags in my kitchen so she could just go to town. She was pretty good about keeping it on the bag but no matter how big the bag was she inevitably at some point took the bone off the bag. I only let her have the bones in the kitchen so very easy to just wipe the wood floor down.
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Post by maryellen on Jun 1, 2011 15:44:00 GMT -5
looks goood all that food, the fur from the rabbit shouldnt do any damage, he will probably pluck it off lol
you can gate him in the kitchen so that the floor is easy to clean, or do what michele did and use a bag or plastic table cloth(cheap ones)
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Post by maryellen on Jun 1, 2011 15:45:14 GMT -5
you can also ask them if they will mix veggies in the ground food too... some places will do that, i used to use www.healthypawsllc.net for my premade ground and she does meats and veggies and just meats..
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Post by sugar on Jun 10, 2011 20:21:58 GMT -5
So I began the transition tonight (with a ground beef/bone/tripe/organ) mix from Hare Today. 95% kibble and about two spoonfuls of the beef mix. Chubby is farting a lot! Stinky-butt is the game of his game Is this normal? Should I throw some yogurt in to help ease the gas?
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Post by sugar on Jun 14, 2011 8:15:05 GMT -5
So Chubs is being slowly switched to raw and now with the addition of whole milk yogurt there is no more gas. he is taking to eating the raw meat mix really well (when he sees me mixing it with his kibble he does a little i-want-it-now! dance and makes his whiney "rooooo-rooo!" noises. Also, haven't had to give him any Benedryl in the last three days and his face isn't red all the time. He isn't drinking as much though which concerns me a little, but I'll see how it plays out (his pee is sometimes super yellow, and before when he drank a lot of water it was lighter yellow). His poop look ok (firmish, on a day when there is a little more bone in the mix it looks a bit dry). He is scooting again though after pooping (which he hasn't been doing so much lately).
He is going to be staying with my mom on Saturday while I go to Philly for their comic con (yeah, I'm a nerd), so she is going to be a little squeamish about feeding raw. I also got him some beef gullets (sad to see they are sliced lenghtwise though), but I won't give it to him until the baby-changing pad I got from Amazon comes in. I have a converted studio apartment which means that my kitchen and living room are one room so I can't really section him off anywhere.
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Post by michele5611 on Jun 14, 2011 9:43:33 GMT -5
Normal for raw fed dogs to not drink as much water. There is more moisture in raw food they are consuming than a diet based on kibble.
You will def. notice a diff. in stool after Chubster eats a big bone or something - more dust/clay like.
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Post by sugar on Jun 14, 2011 10:06:53 GMT -5
Since his teeth aren't in great shape he is eating medium ground mix of meat/tripe/organ/bone. I bought some beef gullets for him to chew but they are softer since its mostly sinew and cartilage. I'm just happy he seems to like it (and that our vet was totally on board and hope it helps too. I know some vets try to dissuade people from raw feeding, but our vet said that if it helps and Chubby does well on it he would love to recommend the company to other clients).
Fingers crossed it continues to help, in another few days he should be totally off kibble (want to do a slow transition since Chubby is known for a sensitive tummy).
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Post by maryellen on Jun 14, 2011 15:38:31 GMT -5
sounds like its working great for Mr Chubbs!!!
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Post by sugar on Jun 22, 2011 8:29:29 GMT -5
Ok, its been almost a full week Chubby is on raw (and he loooves meal time more than ever). He is pooping much much less (he used to poop about 4-5 times a day!) but its very tiny amount and ranges between sometimes a very smelly greenish to very dry yellowish.
Is this normal?
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Post by michele5611 on Jun 22, 2011 8:33:41 GMT -5
Normal to poop less. They are digesting and using much more of what they are eating hence less waste.
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Post by michele5611 on Jun 22, 2011 8:36:30 GMT -5
With regards to the consistency of the poop- that can also change. As I mentioned before sometimes Harley's poop would be dry and like dust/clay othertimes...esp. after tripe a bit stinky!
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Post by sugar on Jun 22, 2011 9:05:24 GMT -5
yeah, the beef mix as muscle, organ, tripe and bone so many thats why its smelled super bad recently. He seems to do better when I add plain yogurt into the mix so I'll keep doing that. Thx
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Post by maryellen on Jun 22, 2011 17:38:27 GMT -5
the tripe and organs will make the poop yucky. the chalkish yellow/white is fine.. too much white hard chalky poop = too much bone. too much greenish yucky =too much tripe/organ meat..
if he does better with the plain yogurt then keep adding it! it sounds like he is doing great on it!!
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Post by sugar on Jun 24, 2011 8:39:43 GMT -5
Is pooping very little normal? When he was on kibble he pooped like four or five times a day. Now he poops maybe once and its just a little bit of poop (very little). He is also scooting more than he has in a while. How do I know if he's constipated or something?
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