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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 18, 2013 13:33:19 GMT -5
Oh Dave, very interesting review. I am glad you read it/posted about it because I don't think I could have stomached it. I could be 100% wrong and I know I don't KNOW Vick as a real, live person, but I have always been under the impression that he is pretty self-serving and insincere. Maybe he "loves" dogs in his own sorta way, but how I define my love of dogs would not even be CLOSE to the same way HE defines his so-called love. I took advantage a free offer from Audible.com and downloaded Finally Free by M Vick. I'm glad I did, but I sure as hell wasn't going to PAY for it. Just finished it this morning. While it's mostly based on his football career, it's an eye-opener in many ways. Vick is and always was a God-fearing person, and credits his accomplishments to God, and his deviant lifestyle to moving away from God. A man who loves his family above all else. Who values life, and loves pets, especially dogs. One entire chapter reveals his dog fighting career and how he had already decided to end it when he was arrested. Another covers his prison stays. If you believe it. I kept getting the impression that he was trying to convince me of all these things. Yet, he only briefly touches on his work with HSUS and his lecturing to the young kids on staying out of trouble. I wanted to hear about Pacelle, about the lectures, about his redemption from the evils of abusing animals. He just kept coming back to football and how much money he was making, or not making, or owing, or paying back, or how much he gave away. I'm sure much of it is genuine Vick, but even Vick writes that it's easier to put into writing a lot of things that are difficult to say. I can't say if the story is written sincerely, but I can say one can easily be swayed to believe it. Maybe the narrator has something to do with that. But for me, once a liar, never trusted. That's how I am.
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Post by Dave on Jan 18, 2013 14:16:53 GMT -5
Another thing I took away from it was the way he admitted doing things that were illegal/immoral/distasteful, and only ended them after he was caught. He didn't so much as write it like that, but it was clear from how he related those stories.
He does, however, accept the blame for what he's done. But like I wrote earlier, it's easier to write "I did that, and I'm sorry" than to actually say it.
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Post by perseus on Jan 18, 2013 14:24:24 GMT -5
hmmmm, I'm w you Mary. I find it unfathomable that someone could own and be around so many of our dogs and do what he did. Got to have a heart of stone and be twisted like crazy.
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Post by melonie on Jan 18, 2013 17:19:34 GMT -5
I'm with what Mary said... and I've always believed he was only sorry he got caught.
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Post by michele5611 on Jan 18, 2013 17:37:27 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing your take on it Dave very interesting indeed.
I have said it a million times before regarding Vick- redemption is earned and reserved for the penitent man. I never thought Vick earned it and certainly don't believe he is truly repentant.
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Post by Dave on Jan 18, 2013 20:48:14 GMT -5
Michele if you believe what he writes in his book he is very repentant. He seems sincere. But his troubles are passed, so I feel it's easy to present himself as repentant. At any rate, it's an interesting a short read. Or in my case narrative. If you want the audiobook it's yours, just say so.
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Post by catstina on Jan 19, 2013 13:25:33 GMT -5
I love the "I was just about to stop before I got caught! I swear!" Bullspit!! I dOnt care what he says in the book, he's a POS and always will be. Let's not forget that he didn't 'just' participate in dog fighting. He tortured and killed the dogs that didn't do well with his bare hands. Did he admit to that in his book?
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Post by suziriot on Jan 23, 2013 12:30:21 GMT -5
Started reading Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor's memoir, My Beloved World, last night. Really fascinating and inspiring.
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 19, 2013 7:08:51 GMT -5
Reading Inside Scientology by Janet Reitman. Realy interesting book.....
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Post by michele5611 on Mar 19, 2013 7:35:06 GMT -5
^me too. Very intersting indeed.
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Post by sugar on Mar 25, 2013 9:12:04 GMT -5
If you like trippy, funny, super weird, demon-filled, stoner comedies...read John Dies at the End. Seriously, I'm 1/2 way through and its the weirdest thing I've read.
Here's short bit off of Amazon:
"STOP.
You should not have touched this book with your bare hands.
NO, don’t put it down. It’s too late.
They’re watching you.
My name is David Wong. My best friend is John. Those names are fake. You might want to change yours.
You may not want to know about the things you’ll read on these pages, about the sauce, about Korrok, about the invasion, and the future. But it’s too late. You touched the book. You’re in the game. You’re under the eye.
The only defense is knowledge. You need to read this book, to the end. Even the part with the bratwurst. Why? You just have to trust me.
The important thing is this:
The drug is called Soy Sauce and it gives users a window into another dimension.
John and I never had the chance to say no.
You still do.
Unfortunately for us, if you make the right choice, we’ll have a much harder time explaining how to fight off the otherworldly invasion currently threatening to enslave humanity.
I’m sorry to have involved you in this, I really am. But as you read about these terrible events and the very dark epoch the world is about to enter as a result, it is crucial you keep one thing in mind:
None of this is was my fault."
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Post by suziriot on Mar 25, 2013 10:20:50 GMT -5
Sounds weird but intriguing!
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 28, 2013 8:38:25 GMT -5
I have wanted to read John Dies At the End for a little while now. (I started watching the movie but never finished it.) The same author has another book, too, a sequel, This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It.
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Post by emilys on Mar 28, 2013 13:25:18 GMT -5
I have wanted to read John Dies At the End for a little while now. (I started watching the movie but never finished it.) The same author has another book, too, a sequel, This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It. I saw that book on the newbook shelf at the library and had to check it out, just because of the title! lol It may be just a little too snarky for my taste though.
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 28, 2013 13:28:06 GMT -5
TOO snarky for you Emily? LOL
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 19, 2013 15:10:22 GMT -5
Has anyone heard of a book called Penpal? I just ordered it today - comes highly recommended on Reddit and the Amazon reviews. This is part of a review: "That moment when you finish a book, look around, and realize that everyone is just carrying on with their lives as though you didn't just experience emotional trauma at the hands of a paperback."
Here is what the story is about:
In Penpal, a man investigates the seemingly unrelated bizarre, tragic, and horrific occurrences of his childhood in an attempt to finally understand them. Beginning with only fragments of his earliest years, you'll follow the narrator as he discovers that these strange and horrible events are actually part of a single terrifying story that has shaped the entirety of his life and the lives of those around him. If you've ever stayed in the woods just a little too long after dark, if you've ever had the feeling that someone or something was trying to hurt you, if you remember the first friend you ever made and how strong that bond was, then Penpal is a story that you won't soon forget, despite how you might try.
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Post by RealPitBull on May 7, 2013 10:41:55 GMT -5
Almost finished with In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts, about addiction and the war on drugs. Very enlightening.
I have a stack of books I'm going to read, I can't even decide what to read next....in cue I have:
Dog Show, Penpal, The Art of Racing in the Rain, Beautiful Disaster....tons more.
What are you all reading?
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Post by maryellen on May 7, 2013 11:38:37 GMT -5
im reading books on what type of chickens will be the best for my area lol.. no honestly its been a while since i read a good book (fifty shades) and i really need to get another good book
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Post by seamonkey on Jul 3, 2013 21:08:12 GMT -5
My husband started reading the Wheel of Time series when he was 14 and grew up with these characters as the last book came out this year. It's about 14 books long and I am about on book 5 or 6 now. 2 books in series I was already reading have come out and if George RR Martin releases a new game of thrones book before I finish the wheel of time and those 2 other books, I'm going to need to visit my therapist
These wheel of time books are about 800-1000 pages long each and I was about 750 pages into one of them and Matilda got a hold of my kindle and I had to wait for a replacement kindle and refind my place in the book
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Post by melonie on Sept 27, 2013 22:08:32 GMT -5
I finished reading Styxx by Sherrilyn Kenyon the other day. If anyone is interested in reading it, I can loan it out through amazon.
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