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Post by Kim Wolf on Apr 22, 2013 10:23:26 GMT -5
Ok, I see what you are saying. I think it has more to do with morphology than being "confused" about what a Pit Bull is or isn't, though. It was very clear what "pit bull" meant to law makers until the new age advocates started misusing the word in a smoke-and-mirrors attempt to try and confuse BSL supporters. I've heard this said many times before, but I'm not finding any primary source information to support it. I'm not disagreeing or saying it's not true, but I just can't find anything. Can you point me in the direction of something that show lawmakers, at some point, used "pit bull" only in reference to APBTs? I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks! |
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 22, 2013 10:29:55 GMT -5
Kim, it was used to reference APBTs, ASTs and SBTs (if you know the history of these dogs, you will understand why they included SBTs in there - APBTs and ASTs are the same thing, as far as I'm concerned). BSL has always included dogs of unknown lineage that LOOK like Pit Bulls, too, to cast the widest net.
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Post by emilys on Apr 22, 2013 20:48:10 GMT -5
From the 1936 Chicago Tribune: "Yankee Terrier - Apparently we are to forget this name, or at least to remember that Yankee terrier from now on is synonymous with Staffordshire terrier. The American Kennel Club has recognized the Yankee terrier as the Staffordshire. Behind these two names is the one that probably is better known -- pit bull, so named from the fact that the dogs were placed in a pit to fight each other. Will Judy, editor of Dog World, urged the name Yankee terrier for this breed. And it was a good name, becoming widely known. But from now on, pit bull, Yankee terrier, and Staffordshire are the same breed in this country." Also in this article -- other examples of other breed name that are confused or used incorrectly. The Spitz was the second group of dogs to be targeted by BSL (Bloodhounds being the first -- BSL passed in Massachusetts in 1880s, then amended in 1890s to only refer to certain types of Bloodhounds) This is why I have little hope of "pit bull" ever meaning APBT only . The term Yankee Terrier was the invention and promotion of ONE person, Will Judy, at the time he was part of the movement to get the AKC to accept the APBT. He knew what dog it meant. What dog it ONLY meant. There was NO OTHER DOG other than the APBT called the "pit bull' or "pit bulldog" or pit (bull) terrier. The article is wrong. The AKC NEVER accepted that name for the APBT I don't see the relevance of laws against bloodhoundtypedogs or spitztypedogs. Unless you're using them to support the interpretation that what the press, the public or the laws, say is a particular dog may not be closely related to what a dog actually is. "I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'?" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'?"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
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