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Post by maryellen on May 6, 2013 19:18:59 GMT -5
the dogs met the neighbors horse for the first time up close the other day... honey did ok after a bit, sadie got scared and ran off when the horse charged, and rufus, well rufus wants to eat the horse.. very seriouusly wants to eat the horse... he is now obsessed with the horse. the horse doesnt back down, and that gets rufus all riled up even more.. now i have to have him onleash in my new fenced in yard due to his obsession with the horse.. it sucks.
so now he looks for the horse every time we go out. the horse looks for the dogs and when he sees the dogs he comes down the hill to our yard..
rufus tonight as i watched him offleash as the horse was away tested and pushed EVERY inch of the horses fence to find a weak spot. he found it. all the way at the end of the fence.. he tested every inch, and found the spot that was the weakest and pushed his head thru,. then stood on his hind legs and checkd out the split rail....
we now have to double barrier the fence- we used the neighbors fence which i told the bf wasnt a good idea due to the horses and goat and i was right of course...
i have a hot wire set up coming next week, and we now have to go out and buy another 100 ft of fencing and 12 more posts to keep a good distance from the horse and rufus.
so , any ideas how to get rufus to ignore the horse ? nothing is working, not food, not toys, nothing.. he is fixated on the horse and its bad...
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Post by melonie on May 7, 2013 23:04:33 GMT -5
I have no idea. I guess you can hope that he grows bored with the horse after awhile. Would having a cloth or glove used to pet/brush the horse down help acclimate him to the scent?
Diesel, who is afraid of cars, men, etc. fell in love with Judy's horses and donkey. I was walking the dog the first time they met. I was a bit afraid of how everyone would react. Diesel dropped down into pancake mode, but I sweet talked him, and the horses just did their horse thing and ignored him. He overcame his fear fairly quickly. He now has his outdoor kennel next to the donkey's yard because they really like each other.
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Post by maryellen on May 8, 2013 11:40:58 GMT -5
i dont own the horse, he belongs to my one neighbor.. i was thinking of using the horse poop to put in my yard for rufus to smell, along with seeing the horse thru the split rail fence. he better get used to the horse fast as its a pain to leash walk him in the new fenced in area..
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Post by maryellen on May 8, 2013 16:09:46 GMT -5
ok all these views and only 1 response? lol come on folks help me out here!!
here is a video i took tonight , sadie is near the horse and fine. the whining is rufus leashed to me and honey was barking just to bark as she is old..
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Post by maryellen on May 9, 2013 16:03:12 GMT -5
3 more videos . last one is the worst. rufus will never be free in the yard... this sucks but it is what it is.. i dont trust him at all even if i do hotwire, muzzle and e collar and double fence. i already let the bf know he is to not have rufus outside without a leash no matter what..
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Post by melonie on May 9, 2013 21:40:24 GMT -5
Oh Rufus. I wish I knew something that would help. Cleveland is this way at the window when there is a cat/squirrel/rabbit/dog out in the yard. I use a squirt bottle, then when he chills from that I've started treating him so long as he is calm. But if I don't have a squirt bottle I cant get him to calm down.
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Post by adoptapitbull on May 10, 2013 5:39:42 GMT -5
What about electronet? It's used mostly for poultry as a movable electrified net. It's not the most sturdy thing in the world, but hopefully one zap and he'll learn to not go near it. It'd be more of a physical barrier than just a few strands of hot wire/tape.
Honestly I think he will get used to the horse as time goes on.
My dogs used to bug out when a chicken came up to the door. Now, Frank the turkey struts in front of it and taunts them and they don't care.
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Post by maryellen on May 10, 2013 17:08:46 GMT -5
i so hope you are right... i never heard of electronet.. does tractor supply carry it?
he is really bad, i havent been able to get the best video as i am normally by myself .. i need to do something fast to help with this. i cant have him loose outside, he is always leashed as the few times he was loose as soon as the horse came down the hill rufus went after him:(
it doesnt help that when the horse hears their dog tags he comes down the hill...
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Post by pitbullmamaliz on May 10, 2013 17:49:19 GMT -5
I would totally BAT that if you could get the horse to stay in one spot without moving too much.
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Post by maryellen on May 10, 2013 18:53:11 GMT -5
do you have a link to the BAT liz?
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Post by pitbullmamaliz on May 10, 2013 20:13:44 GMT -5
This video is an excellent quick and dirty intro to it: And here's the main website: functionalrewards.com/I highly recommend the book as it's very clearly written and gives you a solid foundation for trying it on your own: www.amazon.com/Behavior-Adjustment-Training-Frustration-Aggression/dp/1617810509/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368234568&sr=1-3&keywords=grisha+stewartThe main thing is to just start at a distance where Rufus is interested but not overly so. Have him on a loose leash at that distance and when he calmly looks at the horse and then offers a head turn, ground sniff, or turn away you say "yes!" and retreat about 15 feet. Stay there for 15-30 seconds and then go a little (as in, a couple feet) closer than you were before. Just be cognizant of his body language - if he starts to get sucked in (in the "magnetic pull") then you're too close. It seems overly simplistic, but it has helped with Inara's dog aggression issues immensely. It can be helpful to video it so you can look back later and see where you should have "yessed" and didn't. Humbling and annoying, but educational for your next round. Remember, if you do something that causes pain on him (electric or hot wire), there's a good chance he'll associate it with the horse if he's looking at it at that moment. It may suppress the behavior temporarily, but then come roaring back at a very inopportune time. I'd manage it with a leash or tether while you work on the training so he doesn't learn that horses=pain.
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Post by maryellen on May 10, 2013 21:20:58 GMT -5
im gonna have to go across the street to start... he looks for the horse as soon as he goes to the slider to get to the back yard.. thanks, i am going to watc the video and do clicker and BAT too.l i broke out the clicker tonight and he immediately paid attention to the clicker and the treat
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Post by pitbullmamaliz on May 11, 2013 8:44:16 GMT -5
Good luck!
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Post by maryellen on May 11, 2013 9:56:02 GMT -5
thanks im going to need it . all the dogs here are fine with the horse. except dumbass...grrrrrr
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Post by maryellen on May 16, 2013 11:51:37 GMT -5
3 fences will be up in total on the horse side. rufus is obsessed and even with training i will never trust him. i wont take any chances thats for sure..
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Post by michele5611 on May 16, 2013 17:21:24 GMT -5
I hear ya ME better err on the side of caution. Rufus is a naughty senior boy!
I am sure you could train it out of him all how they are raised.....sorry couldn't resist!!!
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Post by maryellen on May 29, 2013 15:45:26 GMT -5
nothing is working. he is completely obsessed over the freaking horse:( i cant get the 2nd and 3rd fencing for another 2 weeks so he is being walked on leash away from the horse. he is 100% fixated on the dam thing.. this really really sucks
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