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Post by RealPitBull on Aug 7, 2009 14:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by legacy23 on Aug 7, 2009 15:03:43 GMT -5
Not I.....
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Post by RealPitBull on Aug 7, 2009 15:12:13 GMT -5
Someone asked if me if I knew anything about them....was just checking out the site, and I am not sure why they are calling themselves a rescue, because they have this statement on the homepage" "Shorty's Pit Bull Rescue has not had direct contact with any of the available dogs featured in the site, nor has it personally met with anyone interested in adopting a dog."
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Post by legacy23 on Aug 7, 2009 15:43:10 GMT -5
huh?...wow i didn't even see that.....i'm not sure either
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Post by michele5611 on Aug 7, 2009 19:36:52 GMT -5
Never heard of them either. Was puzzled by their mission statement as well. As I navigated around the website and started reading the sections I recognized it right away...some of the information was taken verbatum from Bad Rap's website.
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Post by emilys on Aug 7, 2009 20:45:21 GMT -5
This is the same guy involved with the tv show .. remember the email from producer we got a few months ago? She was looking for people who had been discriminated against because of their dogs. I forwarded the mail to a couple of Denver rescuers who contacted her and said she was legit, and Shorty was sincere. But there was nothing about his rescue I don't believe
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Post by RealPitBull on Aug 8, 2009 9:48:05 GMT -5
Never heard of them either. Was puzzled by their mission statement as well. As I navigated around the website and started reading the sections I recognized it right away...some of the information was taken verbatum from Bad Rap's website. Wow, I'll have to go check that out. ETA Wow, you are right!
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Post by RealPitBull on Aug 8, 2009 9:49:38 GMT -5
This is the same guy involved with the tv show .. remember the email from producer we got a few months ago? She was looking for people who had been discriminated against because of their dogs. I forwarded the mail to a couple of Denver rescuers who contacted her and said she was legit, and Shorty was sincere. But there was nothing about his rescue I don't believe Yes, someone who might be a part of the program asked me for feedback since they would be in the show attached to this name. I'd need more info personally, like what it is exactly they do, because it looks from the site they just list dogs for random people and don't actually have their own material (i.e. they use BR's stuff).
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Post by lpyrbby on Jan 4, 2010 13:20:17 GMT -5
Is this the guy doing the show "Pit Boss?"
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Post by michele5611 on Jan 4, 2010 13:34:14 GMT -5
One and the same Alicia!
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Post by horsesaavy on Feb 21, 2010 1:02:41 GMT -5
I've been watching Pit Boss for awhile, and tonight they aired a new episode, and I was surprised. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with the show, but a Pit Bull was left tied to the door of Shorty's business, and Ashley, Shorty's secretary, found the dog first. She played a big role in finding a home for the dog, and then went to do a home visit. The part that bothered me was during the visit, Ashley asked the adoptive family something like "are there any dog parks nearby?" And I assumed she would inform them (and the viewers) about the dangers of Pit Bulls and dog parks, but no. The family mentioned big grassy areas where neighbors take their dogs to romp. It was like Ashley was encouraging the family to take their dog to these parks and off leash areas.
I'm no expert on Pit Bulls, but every single legitimate Pit Bull site I've visited has advised people not to take Pit Bulls to dog parks.
To be fair, from what I can see from the show, Ashley doesn't have a lot of experience with dogs, and it's great for her to learn and help. But when she entered the house, she mentioned Shorty gave her a list of things to go over. Was encouraging the family to take their new Pit Bull to dog parks on the list? Yikes.
I love the idea of this show. But I wished they had not aired that part, and I sincerely hope the adoptive family does some homework.
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Post by pistis on Feb 21, 2010 1:44:01 GMT -5
Hey horsesaavy: You'd be correct. Apbts/ bully breeds= no dog parks period. Not just because a fight could happen, but because if a fight does happen and it's not even the pit bulls fault does that mean the pit bull won't get blamed? Absolutely not! You don't take your bully breed there because no matter what negative thing happens it will always fall back on the pit bull because the media has demonized this breed to the end of the Earth and back. It's just not responsible ownership and it's NOT setting your dog up for success. I didn't watch tonight's show, but hearing about that really sickens me. After the Vick case it seems that "rescuing" pit bulls is now the "cool thing" to do, and people STILL aren't becoming educated on the breed before jumping into the mix to try and help. They're just adding to the problem. Just like Cesar Millan (sp?), these people are self-proclaiming themselves as rescuers of the breed when really they don't have all the information/ credentials they need to be doing it, and definately do not handle these dogs properly. (I've seen the use of chains and choke collars on this show, and now dog parks are ok??? Are you kiding me??!!). I get that Shorty is trying to use pit bulls as a means to explain "don't judge a book by it's cover." It seems that a lot of "misunderstood" people and doing that (i.e. Brandon Bond). Where they promote the breed, but always use the publicity as a means to promote themselves as well. And hey...thanks for wanting to do so much for these dogs and feel you can really relate to them, but you better make dam* sure you're doing all your research before you just start investing all that money you have into something that you don't have the proper knowledge over. That is the epitome of irresponsible. UGH!!! I really do want these dogs to start getting the good publicity they deserve, but the people in the spotlight trying to give the positive publicity had better get their sh*t straight or else they are only going to be making this problem much bigger. People, you can not take these dogs to dog parks. It doesn't make them bad, it's just a characteristic of a wiggly-butted pittie. Many become dog selective or dog aggressive once they mature (around 2-3 years old), and there's nothing wrong with that (so long as that's ok with the owner and they accept it about their dog). And you could completely end up with the dog that forever gets along with other dogs...but if anything goes wrong it will still be your dogs fault simply because of the stigma surrounding this breed. You would think that wouldn't be hard to understand. Now I have a personal question: (Disclaimer: This message is not meant to offend anyone by any means, I'm simply curious.) Pit bulls/ bully breeds are known to become strong, tenacious dogs. Is this really a breed smaller people can rescue and handle on their own? I remember seeing commercials for the coming Pit Boss show and the girl was getting dragged all over the place. I think with a dog that big and strong in comparison to someone her size that is to be expected. Unless, of course, she owns a personally well trained and behaved pittie. I'm just curious. And now that I think about it I supposed it's fine so long as you do your research (there's that word again), and have the time and effort to put into properly training each dog. Otherwise I see that being a big problem for smaller people who want to start rescuing these dogs that are coming from off the streets. Am I wrong here? Again that's not meant to offend anyone I really am just curious as to what the proper way to handle the situation would be. It's late where I am too, so the buffering of my sentences may not be as accurate as I'd like for it to be right now.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Feb 21, 2010 7:44:44 GMT -5
I think owning any large, strong, possibly DA breed should only be owned by those who can handle them in certain situations. At home with no other dogs is perfectly fine. But, if someone was to own 2 large, strong, DA dogs and a fight would break out, there is no way in heck they could separate them. Again, definitely not advising that little people shouldn't have Pits, but I think it could be a big issue to own 2 or take them to dog parks/ off leash areas. Same goes for the elderly. You don't see an 80 year old woman with 2 Rotties, or Dobies, or Pits, do you?
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Post by emilys on Feb 21, 2010 11:12:52 GMT -5
well, there's no reason an 80 year woman couldn't own a well trained large strong dog.
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Post by zueszena on Feb 21, 2010 12:08:15 GMT -5
Go back and watch the episode were one of the dogs got away from the"handler" while doing a breed fiendly visit to an old folks home,,,great idea but dog got loose and wasn't but could have been diasterious
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Post by suziriot on Feb 21, 2010 13:28:59 GMT -5
I have such mixed feelings about this whole pit bull fad. While it's great that the breed is getting positive attention, the public is also getting a lot of mixed messages. The recent Rachael Ray situation is a perfect example. She's done good things for the image of pit bulls and even helped some (big name) rescues, but she is completely ignorant of how to be a responsible owner and seems to know nothing about true pit bull temperament. This message being put out there by some rescue and advocacy groups that pit bulls are "just like any other dog" is confusing. Well, OF COURSE they are just like any other dog: they're DOGS. But all dog breeds have specific health and behavioral needs that owners should be aware of. Whether it's hip dysplasia, bone cancer, dog aggression, guarding, etc. Be responsible enough to know your breed and decide if your lifestyle can fit the dog's needs. That is even more true for breed rescues. It's incredibly irresponsible and unethical for anyone to be running a breed rescue and adopting out dogs without knowing as much as possible about the dogs' needs and temperament, and then passing that information along to all of your fosters and adopters. Doing otherwise is not only setting up the dog and adopter for failure, it's setting up the breed for failure. Pit bulls have enough enemies already. Rescuing them is challenging enough already. Friends like these, we don't need. This kind of crap gets me really, really angry.
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Post by horsesaavy on Feb 21, 2010 14:16:21 GMT -5
I agree, I've been reading all sorts of posts here, including the Rachel disaster, and the fact that many people hear things like "nanny dog" and assume it's safe to leave a dog with children, and it brings a whole new set of challenges. I've also seen several members here post stories where other dogs were at fault, but who was blamed/glared at? Their dog. Totally unfair. But it happens all the time. Plus it's not just our dogs we have to worry about. And since the Pit Bull always gets the blame, it just makes sense to avoid the dog parks. (from what I've gathered) Set the dog up for success. Several things in this show make me raise my eyebrows. I realize it's a show, mostly for entertainment, but geez. On the first episode, everyone on the show, including Shorty, had two pronunciations for his dog, Geisha. Sometimes she was Ge-Sha, other times, Gay-Sha. It was confusing. I come up with crazy nicknames for my furkids, but I've never pronounced their name in different ways? And I guess the dog recognizes both as her name, but still weird, especially for Shorty to do it too. Also the dog escapes, both in the first episode, and at the nursing home visit thing. Also seeing Ashley walk the Pit Bull, in the latest episode. She took her for a walk, with her mother, and the dog was dragging her all over, almost into the street at a corner, but her mother grabbed the leash. I know it's a show, but it made me cringe still, worrying both dog and human could get hit by a car. Ashley did mention she didn't think Shorty would let her walk the dog without her mom there, but still, scary stuff. I would hate to see anybody, dog or person, get hurt
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