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Post by RealPitBull on May 14, 2008 8:48:02 GMT -5
A story was recently posted on one of the training lists I am on. Without giving identifying detail, the story is short - PitX lived with another family dog for years with no incident. Dogs were boarded together and shared a kennel run. The PitX killed the other dog during the course of the stay at the kennel. and appalled, the owners decided to euth the PitX despite the fact that he is a friendly, loving, stable dog. Breed to me is almost irrelavant, here. There are a variety of reasons kenneling dogs together is a bad idea. But this story helps me drive home a point I repeat over and over: we must set our dogs up to succeed!!! All too often dogs are placed into situations in which they have no choice but to do 'the wrong thing' (what the human perceives as wrong; of course dogs do not understand moral concepts of 'right' and 'wrong'.) Know your breed, know your DOG, but educating yourself about dog behavior in general is sooo important for us dog owners! I wish all dogs came with a manual that was required reading. Most of all I wish people wouldn't be so when dogs act like dogs - I think it's easy to lose sight of what dogs are when we live so intimately with them on a day to day basis. But they ARE animals, and they will do things that we cannot understand or comprehend. To me, that is part of the beauty and mystery of living with another species.
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Post by valliesong on May 14, 2008 13:03:39 GMT -5
My pit bull and pit bull/shar pei mix are kept permanently separated for the same reason. They got along wonderfully for years, and then suddenly had two serious fights in less than a month. Thankfully I was prepared for the possibility and never allowed them alone unsupervised, or one or both may have died.
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Post by AmyJo27 on May 14, 2008 19:40:02 GMT -5
My dogs get along great but some times Molly (pit/lab) will get aggressive to our other dogs, I would never leave her alone with any of my dogs! Boomer loves all dogs but still, I would never give him an oppertunity to fight!
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Post by mageedog on May 14, 2008 20:14:20 GMT -5
My Rule #1 of owning a Pit is and always will be : Prevent the fight.
If you have the KNOWLEDGE of how and why fights can occur you are 99% likely to never have one.
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Post by jenn on May 16, 2008 23:52:39 GMT -5
Wow. It really is something that I came across this posting tonight. Tylers sister is still here and they sleep together in the same crate. The crate isn't the largest but when they lay down they have room to stretch and not touch each other. They sleep together even when they are out during the day and are tired from playing. Is it dangerous for me to crate them together at night?
They are both 6 month old females and are very well behaved around each other. I know when they hit maturity I definatley have to be aware and on the look out for any signs of aggression. And even now I watch them playing and just being themselves so I can be prepared in case something happens.
With the crating at night I am not watching them because I'm on the other side of the room sleeping. Is this dangerous? They have been doing this for about a week and a half with no problems... that I've seen.
Also they eat together. This is something that they do all on their own. I place their dishes about ten feet away from each other because I wanted to avoid any possible food fights but usually tyler will bring her dish over to where eden is... and on one occasion eden brought hers over to tyler.. And they will eat right next to each other with just a couple of inches between them. Should I put a stop to this?
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Post by mcgregor on May 17, 2008 9:09:45 GMT -5
Jenn Indeed it is dangerous to crate two pitbulls/other breed in the same crate at the same time......no matter how loving they are to each other, one little quirk could set off a motion of disaster...... use one crate for each dog and it must have room for the dog to stand up and move around......I have one pitty and a little poodle half something terrier plus a big cat and they all get along fabulously but whenever I leave the house the pitbull is left in the living room and the little one and the cat stay in the bedroom with the door closed....I dont need a crate anymore because the pitty is well behaved in the house , he is a non chewer ... from the time he was apuppy he actually was in his crate for a time until he learned to behave gentlemanly , no more housewrecking and no more pooping on the floor.... the crate can do miracles for a dog but not when there are two to a crate......
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Post by jenn on May 17, 2008 14:58:29 GMT -5
Thanks Mcgregor. I didn't see a problem with it because edens owner owns the mother and father of eden and they all sleep together in their crate with the door open. But after seeing this posting I started to doubt how safe it is.
I wil seperate them tonight but since I only have one crate ty will be kept out because she won't chew through my electronics lol
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Post by mcgregor on May 18, 2008 8:37:48 GMT -5
You are welcome Jenn....... Pitbulls learn from their mistakes; due to my Yogi never touching electronics , he may have gotten into some extention cords out in the yard when he was a pup and got a jolt of hot juice, just speculating because I have noticed that he never ever touches my electronics.... not even the tv remote ,hes such a good boy that keeps me on cloud nine feeling so proud of him ......got him at 2 months old, from that time he was a lovable but pardon my french... lol a horrible puppy until he accepted the crate as his castle....I only crated him when I left the house for a couple of hours..
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Post by thedarkness on Feb 11, 2009 16:30:44 GMT -5
After reading this I'm definitely going to make it a priority to get my own dog pen. A friend of mine has been letting me share her dog pen with her pup. So far we have had no problems with aggression, they eat out of the same dish sometimes even though they have their own placed on different sides of the pen, but I would hat to go feed them in the morning and find my pup dead and hers hurt. At the moment the chances of my pup seriously hurting hers isn't as big because she weighs less than twenty pounds and he is over fifty, so if they did get into a fight it would probably be pretty one sided.
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 11, 2009 16:34:02 GMT -5
While I'm not a fan of dogs living outdoors fulltime, this brings up another point. If a fight were to break out there may not be anyone there to intervene.
If your dogs stay outside for several hours unsupervised it will be impossible to determine potential triggers and supervise them all the time.
Is there a reason you cannot crate in the home?
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Post by DiamondTiger on Feb 12, 2009 5:52:00 GMT -5
Great thread/reminder!
Also, I want to add for those who have young dogs and wonder if crating together or unsupervised together time is okay... Don't underestimate your (or any) dog.
I fostered a 10 week old pup a couple of years ago who was SO full of herself and fire from THAT early age. She didn't know she was little, all she knew was she WANTED a piece of "that other dog", and she'd fly into another dog like there was no tomorrow. Karma is great with the little ones and did Bella so much good, in helping to teach her what was appropriate and what wasn't. Still, Karma was the ONLY dog that Bella would be even remotely civil to and even then it didn't last long.
Point here is... although Bella was so small she couldn't do much damage to a larger dog, a larger dog - if it wanted to - could have torn Bella to shreds after little ole Bella instigated the fight.
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Post by RealPitBull on Feb 12, 2009 8:37:15 GMT -5
After reading this I'm definitely going to make it a priority to get my own dog pen. A friend of mine has been letting me share her dog pen with her pup. So far we have had no problems with aggression, they eat out of the same dish sometimes even though they have their own placed on different sides of the pen, but I would hat to go feed them in the morning and find my pup dead and hers hurt. At the moment the chances of my pup seriously hurting hers isn't as big because she weighs less than twenty pounds and he is over fifty, so if they did get into a fight it would probably be pretty one sided. Good for you! I'm glad you are taking your dog's safety seriously. Too many owners don't. Kudos to you for being a great owner.
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Post by thedarkness on Feb 16, 2009 23:01:35 GMT -5
The reason that she has to stay outside is that I am college student and dogs aren't allowed in the dorms. Once I'm able to get an apartment she will be an inside dog but I'm required to live in the dorms right now so... Also right now she hasn't shown any dog aggression whatsoever. I know that this doesn't mean she won't it just means that I have time until the next shipment of pens comes in in a week hopefully.
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Post by Chloe on Mar 2, 2009 11:41:57 GMT -5
The reason that she has to stay outside is that I am college student and dogs aren't allowed in the dorms. Once I'm able to get an apartment she will be an inside dog but I'm required to live in the dorms right now so... Also right now she hasn't shown any dog aggression whatsoever. I know that this doesn't mean she won't it just means that I have time until the next shipment of pens comes in in a week hopefully. So, does she ever get to come inside, or does she have to stay outside 24/7? How old is she? From the sounds of her size I'm guessing she's a puppy still. Keeping her outside all the time is not a good idea and depending on how long she has to live outside, it's probably gonna make potty training her very difficult when you are able to bring her inside at your new aptartment, which is hopefully gonna be very soon. She needs to be inside with her people, it's crucial that pitbulls get proper socialization and it doesnt really sound like she's getting that if she's kept outside all the time. They want and need to be with you, not outside alone all day and night. I'm not trying to be mean or rude or pick on you, I just know how fantastic they can be if properly socialized and how heartbreaking a result you can create if you dont properly socialize. I'm a foster mom for pitties, and no offense but this is one of the exact reason I dont adopt my pitties out to college students. Not because I think your bad owners, because I dont think that at all but just because pitbulls require so much more then a bassett hound or a pug and a lot of time students just dont have the time or the resources they need for this breed of dog, perfect example, you live in a dorm that does not allow dogs indoors so the dog is forced to live outside all day and all night from the sounds of it. Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, I dont think your a bad owner, I just dont think this is a good situation for this or any dog.
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Post by thedarkness on Mar 15, 2009 22:20:47 GMT -5
The reason that she has to stay outside is that I am college student and dogs aren't allowed in the dorms. Once I'm able to get an apartment she will be an inside dog but I'm required to live in the dorms right now so... Also right now she hasn't shown any dog aggression whatsoever. I know that this doesn't mean she won't it just means that I have time until the next shipment of pens comes in in a week hopefully. So, does she ever get to come inside, or does she have to stay outside 24/7? How old is she? From the sounds of her size I'm guessing she's a puppy still. Keeping her outside all the time is not a good idea and depending on how long she has to live outside, it's probably gonna make potty training her very difficult when you are able to bring her inside at your new aptartment, which is hopefully gonna be very soon. She needs to be inside with her people, it's crucial that pitbulls get proper socialization and it doesnt really sound like she's getting that if she's kept outside all the time. They want and need to be with you, not outside alone all day and night. I'm not trying to be mean or rude or pick on you, I just know how fantastic they can be if properly socialized and how heartbreaking a result you can create if you dont properly socialize. I'm a foster mom for pitties, and no offense but this is one of the exact reason I dont adopt my pitties out to college students. Not because I think your bad owners, because I dont think that at all but just because pitbulls require so much more then a bassett hound or a pug and a lot of time students just dont have the time or the resources they need for this breed of dog, perfect example, you live in a dorm that does not allow dogs indoors so the dog is forced to live outside all day and all night from the sounds of it. Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, I dont think your a bad owner, I just dont think this is a good situation for this or any dog. I know your not trying to be mean, your just concerned and I appreciate that. Yes she does stay outside all the time. I took her home for spring break and she got to stay inside then and I was very pleasantly surprised that she did not have a single accident! Since I did not plan on having a puppy this semester I can't spend as much time with her as I would like because of my class schedule but next semester I can plan better. As it is she is getting socialized because I know how important that is for her.
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