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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 9:48:14 GMT -5
sadie will be 2 on 3/28.. the past few months she has started to act weird, whining when rufus is near me or roommate, if we are petting him she gets all whiny and acts "needy" and starts barking/whining and just acts like insecure in a way.... like room mates son is here for the weekend, he had rufus on his lap, and sadie started whining like crazy getting all "nervous/needy/insecure" behaviors and kept jumping on the couch to get closer to collin while rufus was sitting with him. i kept taking her off the couch and saying "no couch" and she listens fine, but then when collin started talking to rufus she started all over again, jumping on the couch to squeeze between rufus and couch to sit with collin... she does this with the roommate too, if we are sitting on the couch and rufus comes over to him and he starts petting him sadie gets all whiny nervous needy insecure (best way to describe her behavior its like she gets jumpy and excited in a way) and will push her way to him to have him pet her too (to which he knows to ignore her behavior as i have told him not to pet her when she does this)
she is also extremely attached to my roommate, if he leaves the apt she goes nuts running to the window to look for him and gets all whiny.. he does no training with her at all just takes her out places (obviously he is more fun then me as i just train her and play with her but i reprimand her when she does something wrong) he does no reprimanding or training at all basically just acts like a playmate to her)
if rufus is sniffing a bag on the table she does the same thing,, gets all whiny and acts all weird. she also has been putting her hackles up at certain dogs she sees in the neighborhood- these dogs have done nothing to her except glance her way , as i am always watching the other dogs and their owners as some owners cant control their dogs... i know hackles up is either excitement or fear, and when she sees these other dogs she immediately starts barking at them and growling and her hackles go straight up, no matter how much i correct her she doesnt stop and will get the last bark/growl in ...
prior to the past 2 months of this behavior she didnt do this at all, no whiny "needy" behavior, no barking/growling/hackles up at these certain 3 dogs...
the only thing that changed was its been so cold the past 2 months that walking the long walks at night i havent done, the walks have been shorter due to the cold . and if i increase her walks she gets even more amped up sometimes
i dont know if its due to the no long walks anymore, or if she is closer to maturing at 2, or if she is going thru a fear/weird stage for the past 2 months..
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 14:23:41 GMT -5
i think i am going to up her training and put NILIF on her, as she has been getting away with stuff that i dont allow but my roommate does..
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Post by suziriot on Feb 4, 2012 14:28:06 GMT -5
i think i am going to up her training and put NILIF on her, as she has been getting away with stuff that i dont allow but my roommate does.. Yeah, I was going to say that she may just be going through a general bratty stage with settling in and getting comfortable in her new home, transitioning into maturity, etc. Re-establishing some strict boundaries might be helpful. I know you don't let your dogs get away with stuff anyways, but doing some super strict NILF for a couple weeks might just reinforce things if she's testing limits and boundaries. |
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 14:41:19 GMT -5
thanks suzi, its been driving me nuts, she has been here since july, and the last 2 months has turned into a WHINY not listening BRAT.. i am going to up her exercise and do strict niif and tell the roommate that he has to follow it or else, as i am NOT putting up with a dog with bratty issues because one person in the house wont follow the rules.... i am also going to leash her to me so that she cant jump all over the roommates kids when they come over(they all allow it and call her up there to sit with them which makes it worse) and basically put her on lockdown.... and when we eat she and rufus will be gated in the bedroom as they both started begging at the table which is something i HATE..
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Post by loverocksalot on Feb 4, 2012 15:38:37 GMT -5
Sounds like a stage of bratty behavior. Roommate has to follow NILIF sounds like my husband who has no part in the training nor does he follow my rules. He and Rocky have a separate relationship yet sometimes Rocky looks to me for guidance when Dad is telling him what to do like bitey face for example Dad lets him play it but often Rocky will look at me and just stop playing it. The hackles at the other dogs she may just need some distance and reward for not reacting.
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 15:48:23 GMT -5
well she hates being on leash tied to me lol HAHAHAAAAA oh well tough luck..... she has been tied to me since i last posted her world has just dropped a few notches hahaaaaaaa...
if she sees the certain dogs in the distance she still reacts, its only these 3 dogs which started right around 2 months ago with her reactivity /whiny issues since she is maturing.
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Post by suziriot on Feb 4, 2012 15:51:35 GMT -5
well she hates being on leash tied to me lol HAHAHAAAAA oh well tough luck..... she has been tied to me since i last posted her world has just dropped a few notches hahaaaaaaa... LOL! It's mean of me to be laughing, but I'm sure she's thinking "WTH is going on here? I thought I was the Princess! Princesses don't get tethered!" Rude awakening, Princess Sadie. LOL! |
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 15:57:14 GMT -5
oh suzi that is exactly what she is thinking... she is being very subdued chained next to me lol and is wondering wtf is happening hahaaaaa....
her world just stopped hahaaaaaa..
no more princess..... SHE IS JUST A COMMONER NOW LOLOLOLOL
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 16:23:24 GMT -5
she just got sent to the bedroom. rufus was on the couch , he walked on the couch over to me and sadie was on leash and started whining and barking at rufus.. so into the bedroom she went and that is where she is now. she was on leash with me when she did this.... this is not going to be easy lol... for dinner she is put in the bedroom babygated until her food is ready, the she comes out and has to sit and wait until i release her to eat. that part she knows well. at least now that she is babygated she doesnt stand up with her paws on the counter anymore..
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Post by melonie on Feb 4, 2012 16:25:48 GMT -5
Ellie sort of acts that way when I'm doing something with the other dogs. I am pretty sure for her it is insecurity, as I've discovered she also has separation anxiety. Since she is also a bratty teenager, it's hard sometimes to figure out behaviors!
Hopefully the nilf works on Sadie... keep us posted! It helps to read what others do.
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Post by maryellen on Feb 6, 2012 17:34:39 GMT -5
its funny, if i put her first she doesnt act this way.. rufus could care less who is "the boss" but i really dont want to let sadie step over rufus's paws and become first .
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Post by maryellen on Feb 6, 2012 18:01:48 GMT -5
im going to throw something out here. my house consists of rufus, 9 1/2 yr old neutered pitmx, Sadie almost 2 yr old spayed female gsd (born 3/28/10) and cheyenne, a 16 year old dalmation that has been living with me since april 2011, she has been declining the past 2 months health wise, and is basically getting to the end (roommates dog)... is it possible that since the dynamics are changing because cheyenne is dying causing part of sadies issues? plus sadie turning 2 in a month, and maybe this is all part of what she is doing? sunday she was fine until rufus went to my roommate's son to hang with, he loves to cuddle with the boy , and when he went to him sadie started whining and tried to squeeze into them to get petted.... she did the same with roommate, he was on the floor , rufus walked over, he started petting rufus and sadie immediately started whining and ran right over to roommate and rufus and pretty much became very pushy for roommate to pet her too... is it possible her hitting 2 and cheyenne dying is contributing to her behavior?
i had to put my last gsd first when i had 3 dogs, she kept upsetting the balance and causing fights with my rottie , it was sonny, jesse then rufus hiararchy , but every time i had sonny the rottie in front per say the gsd caused numerous tiffs .. once i put her first, the tiffs stopped completely.. she didnt instigate any tiffs with the rott or rufus at all.. yes it sounds weird, but i just shifted the dynamics and put the gsd first, then the rott, then rufus when it came to food,training etc and everything was calmer (this too was when gsd was hitting 2 years old)
so its a shot in the dark, but could all the above be a factor? i mean rufus could care less who is in front of him pack wise, he does his own thing and doesnt care who gets fed first, walked first, pet first etc...
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Post by loverocksalot on Feb 6, 2012 21:45:58 GMT -5
My dad said it all changed when his #1 dog passed and his dog that was at the middle dog age range and stayed out of it all. he stayed at the bottom. And then he got the puppy who I am not sure where she stood but I know his middle dog who was not the boss became the boss. telling pup to leave the old boy alone etc. As far as I know she is still the boss now it is just the two Aussies. now Im curious.
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Post by suziriot on Feb 6, 2012 22:52:44 GMT -5
It very well could be the changing dynamics that are contributing to Sadie's behavior. I knew that things would change after Barley passed because he was the definite leader in the pack. He was the "mom" and gave gentle but clear corrections when he thought the other dogs were getting out of line, and also literally licked their wounds if anybody got a little scrape. Otis came into a house where Nine and Kuma ignored him, and Barley was his big brother who showed him the ropes. Barley was his best bud, even more so than Dharma. But we had no idea just how important a role he played in the stability of their behavior. Otis especially. I'm convinced that's what has led to Otis and Brandy not getting along. Otis has been a total brat recently. He pushes things too far and Brandy won't stand for it. We've got him on strict NILIF now and he is soon going to lose a lot of privileges. We're finishing up some remodeling in the house so things are chaotic, but when we get back to normal he will be surprised by the changes I'm sure.
So, Cheyenne's decline could definitely be a factor.
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Post by drewsthepits on Feb 7, 2012 0:27:58 GMT -5
Ride it out and keep on with what your doing. Behavior modification can be a long on-going process and hopefully like others said, it is just a stage.
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Post by perfectpit on Feb 7, 2012 0:32:48 GMT -5
When the dynamics changed in my house years back the same thing occurred. However my Aussie became very aggressive. She used to be very laid back before but when my lab was getting old and we knew his time was soon her behaviors really increased. I talked to my vet and he said she was going through morning, she knew something was going to happen. When he passed she became a real terror. I couldn't even leave her around people because I was afraid of her reaction. We waited about 2 mths before getting another dog and her behavior went back to her old self.
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