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Post by fureverywhere on Feb 4, 2012 13:18:39 GMT -5
We were at the dog park yesterday. There were only a few people because of the cold. It's usually a mix of dogs and people given the diversity of the bordering areas. But this particular group...all neighbors and dog park fashionistas, the type of dogs with personal trainers and PR people too...excuse us for sullying the landscape...  ... But amazingly I blended in enough to be included in the conversation-when you're older they assume you left the heeled boots at home for practicalities sake. So here they are chirrping about the nice people and friendly dogs who socialize here and its a rather nice group...however you must be careful on the weekends when certain people bring pit bulls there. Obviously they viewed Ophie as perhaps a beagle mix of some sort??? You know that situation where people pull you aside for toadly inappropriate comments...about those pit bulls, or those cheap Jews, or those retarded kids...of course being oblivious to the fact that you want to deck them but yer too appalled to speak |
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Post by suziriot on Feb 4, 2012 14:20:16 GMT -5
You know that situation where people pull you aside for toadly inappropriate comments...about those pit bulls, or those cheap Jews, or those retarded kids...of course being oblivious to the fact that you want to deck them but yer too appalled to speak Ugh, this scenario has happened to me more times than I can count. What kind of oblivious nitwit do you have to be to assume that a total stranger would agree with your bigoted statements, let alone be okay with you saying it at all??? Then again, there are those who know you won't be okay with it but say it anyways. Years ago there was a girl I worked with who overheard me talking about getting a Hanukkah gift for my brother. She asked me if I was Jewish, and I told her my mother's side of my family is and that we celebrate both traditions. She said, "I thought your nose looked a little Jewy." I was so freaking  , but it didn't stop me from replying, "Yeah, I thought you looked a little bitchy but I guess I was wrong. You're full-blooded bitch aren't you?" People are such a$$hats.  |
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 14:25:02 GMT -5
i wont even comment on the fact you took your dog to a dog park when she has issues pulling you to other dogs.....
i hate when people make comments like that... just hate it...
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Post by fureverywhere on Feb 4, 2012 15:40:28 GMT -5
Well...yeah...but ya forget off-leash she's a way happy puppy with most dawgs...especially puppehs...
A bit of gallows humor-wish I could have said with a cheerful smile " Hum, that cute canine you're stroking is one of those monsterous pit bulls and I am a rather generous Jew"...then skipped off merrily with Pookins...
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Post by maryellen on Feb 4, 2012 15:55:30 GMT -5
doesnt matter, you just said "most dawgs".. and dog parks are a BIG no= no for pit bulls. you have a PIT BULL dog.... who has issues with some dogs... if something happens in the dog park your PIT BULL will be blamed.... new jersey does not need bsl, and i dont want my right to own this breed taken away by people who feel their Pit bulls belong in dog parks. you just dont get what kind of dog you have.... and when something happens and your dog injures another dog dont come crying here because your dog is now declared dangerous for injuring another dog .....
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Post by michele5611 on Feb 4, 2012 17:13:20 GMT -5
ME makes some really valid points even though they may be hard to hear. RPB's position is that pit bulls do not belong in dog parks for a multitude of reasons.
It only takes one time on any given day for your dog or anyone's dogs for that matter to start a fight and even if your dog does not start it they may finish it. Believe me when I say if you own a pit bull or mix you will most likely get the blame and pay the price.
It's all about acceptable risk here and since I know how much you adore that cutie pie girl of yours and only want the best for her I really urge you to reconsider taking her to off leash dog parks.
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Post by fureverywhere on Feb 4, 2012 21:40:42 GMT -5
Okay, Michele I'll respect your perspective on the matter
But Maryellen...I know todays culture is "tell it like it is and call it as you see it" but an analogy is Achmed at work one day...
There was the matter of a simple rain check that turned into a blistering rant on his part, because of course if the corporation loses six cents it will obviously result in hours being cut, jobs being lost and ultimately the corporation tanking...yes but of course
There's not an excuse for sounding like we learned our manners in jr high...a simple the dog park might be a bad idea would suffice.
an
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Post by fureverywhere on Feb 4, 2012 21:48:28 GMT -5
I'm gonna take an internet vacation fer a spell...a bit overly sensitive at the moment and...how to word it????
We're trying to advocate for dogs with certain similar physical and behavioral characteristics but doesn't it seem to go against that philosophy making blanket statements...they're all individuals, saying with conviction what a dog will ultimately do just because they have the potential to is absurd...eh whatever
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Post by maryellen on Feb 5, 2012 8:23:53 GMT -5
sorry i dont sugar coat anything. dog parks are a bad idea, its been told numerous times on this forum to numerous members... your dog has issues, you have stated it yourself the way she drags you and goes at other dogs... so why on earth would you bring her to a dog park whether off leash or not..
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Post by loverocksalot on Feb 5, 2012 13:12:30 GMT -5
Ok here is my thought. Just by the way you said the other people talk about pit Bulls I would not go there anymore. They think your dog is of some other breed. But if something happens even if it is not your dogs fault. Watch how fast someone says it was that dog that looks like a pit bull.
I was in a park recently that was not a dog park. Another woman had her dogs off lead. This upset Rocky. She thought because she had small dogs and I had a big dog that she had more rights than me. I called the police right away in fear of she was going to try to say that some lady with a pit bull was mean to her. When all I did was insist she put a leash on her dogs. She told me to wait while she got down the path. I refused and walked right passed her and her little dogs. She looked terrified and left the park. Nothing happened except her off lead Yorkie going after Rocky so I called the police and protected myself. Now in a dog park this same scenario may have resulted in the dogs going after Rocky and god knows what would happen. Rocky happily plays with other dogs but I will not risk it at a dog park. People are ass holes at dog parks. I do not believe in dog parks for any breed. I would not take any dog to a dog park. Before knowing better I might have. But now that I owned Rocky and learned more about dogs, The dog park is a place for people who do not understand dogs. I know you think your dog is excited to see other dogs and thats why she reacts and I think you are probably right. But what you have done and are doing is rewarding her reactive behavior by bringing her to the dog park. Its classic. We do this all the time we generally accidentally reward the wrong behavior. Taking it away almost always fixes the issue. Takes time but if you insist on continuing to bring her to dog parks you should not let her go in until she no longer reacts to dogs on lead. Her reward is to get closer to dogs. You can do this with out going to dog park by finding someone willing to have play dates in a neutral location. Or even at your home.
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Post by adoptapitbull on Feb 5, 2012 14:11:12 GMT -5
I'll admit it. I used to take Mav and Merlin, and then Mav and Cappy to the dog park. It didn't take us long before we stopped going, though. Most of the reason was me almost coming to blows with a man twice my age and twice my size about my "aggressive Pit Bull". His dog was in the wrong, but it was my Pit Bull who got blamed.
A quick story about my dog park in FL. It was divided into a large dog park and a small dog park. It was only divided in recent years. Why? A small puff ball of a dog kept biting a Rottweiler. The Rotti was patient for awhile, tried to get away, and finally had enough. He turned around, grabbed the puffy dog, and broke its neck in one shake. Every person there gave statements that the small dog was the problem. Didn't matter. Rotti was sent out of the country to live with relatives because FL said it would be euth'd for being dangerous.
Sure, it's fun to see your dog run around and talk to other people about dogs. I enjoyed it, and so did the dogs. Who doesn't love when a bunch of people tell you that your dog is pretty, or funny, or lovable? But sh!t happens FAST. When it does, it is never pretty.
It's just not worth the risk for any Pit Bull, or any dog for that matter.
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Post by susan on Feb 6, 2012 9:52:15 GMT -5
My loved one n I just talked about this over the weekend. A guy he works with takes is 2 pitties to a dog park, he was telling mike how much fun his dogs have, he invited us to bring halo. I told him I didnt feel comfotable taking her to a dog park, but he could talk to freind and we could set play date to see how dogs would inner act. HALO HAS NEVER fought, and she seems to cower when other dogs get mouthy, but i am aware how fast it could turn bad. Halo will be 1 year old FEB 26 and im really hoping she dont have to learn the fight in her. I really think the dog park thing is a bad idea because of the other people, but will go lets see if we can be freinds.
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Post by RealPitBull on Feb 6, 2012 10:06:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna take an internet vacation fer a spell...a bit overly sensitive at the moment and...how to word it???? We're trying to advocate for dogs with certain similar physical and behavioral characteristics but doesn't it seem to go against that philosophy making blanket statements...they're all individuals, saying with conviction what a dog will ultimately do just because they have the potential to is absurd...eh whatever I'm sorry you're leaving. Hope you come back soon, but of course I understand the need to take a break. Just one quick comment - I understand the need to take each dog on a case by case basis, but with Pit Bulls or Pit Mixes, it's really important to understand it's not just about YOUR dog, it's about caring for the breed as a whole and going above and beyond to make sure the actions of your dog never hurt all other Pit Bulls. That's the task we take on when we bring these dogs into our homes. Also, we do know that Ophie has issues with some other dogs, and cats (and small breeds can be considered prey items to dogs, esp those who've demonstrated such an inclination). So taking her into consideration as an individual, we already know dog parks are probably not the best idea for her. Hope you don't take this as an attack or judgement, it's coming from a place of concern and caring. xoxo |
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Post by michele5611 on Feb 6, 2012 10:32:07 GMT -5
My loved one n I just talked about this over the weekend. A guy he works with takes is 2 pitties to a dog park, he was telling mike how much fun his dogs have, he invited us to bring halo. I told him I didnt feel comfotable taking her to a dog park, but he could talk to freind and we could set play date to see how dogs would inner act. HALO HAS NEVER fought, and she seems to cower when other dogs get mouthy, but i am aware how fast it could turn bad. Halo will be 1 year old FEB 26 and im really hoping she dont have to learn the fight in her. I really think the dog park thing is a bad idea because of the other people, but will go lets see if we can be freinds. I think you are making a wise decision with regards to the well-being of Halo. I am all for socializing dogs in a controlled environment just not turning them loose into the chaos of a dog park. It is also important to remember that even if one trusts their own dog what about the other dogs? Too many variables in my opinion. Not only are you relying on your own dog to behave but you are relying on the behavior of random unknown dogs. |
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Post by drewsthepits on Feb 7, 2012 0:22:09 GMT -5
I understand the need to take each dog on a case by case basis, but with Pit Bulls or Pit Mixes, it's really important to understand it's not just about YOUR dog, it's about caring for the breed as a whole and going above and beyond to make sure the actions of your dog never hurt all other Pit Bulls. 100% While we all focus on our dogs individually we must always keep vigilant towards the bigger picture of not just protecting but enhancing the Pit Bull breed by keeping great Pittie ambassadors. I've been spending a lot of time in the SPCA with the dogs and it is clear, firsthand, of the impact the public's opinion of the dogs has. I hear and listen to would-be adopters ruling out Pit Bulls based solely on their name, asking "do you have any dogs that aren't Pit Bulls?" We see one adopted in a day and we are ecstatic despite the dozens of people who come in looking for dogs only to realize their 80% Pit Bulls. |
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