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Post by emilys on Mar 20, 2012 19:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by maryellen on Mar 21, 2012 15:45:48 GMT -5
she owes me money, so i have no sympathy for her
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Post by emilys on Mar 21, 2012 17:17:50 GMT -5
she owes me money, so i have no sympathy for her she owes everyone money. I'm lucky I actually got paid back, though it was a struggle there's an interesting discussion among some of her victims on my FB page... |
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Post by bubsy on Mar 21, 2012 17:49:45 GMT -5
Interesting...I haven't heard anything about Spindletop in a long while, and kind of wondered why. Years ago it seemed that so many supported Spindletop, I wondered what the deal was.
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Post by maryellen on Mar 21, 2012 20:09:50 GMT -5
i still have her emails to me stating she was going to pay me back, its been years... i still havent gotten the money,she is a lowlife, same as the woman who took $40 from me on another forum a few years ago and was supposed to ship me 3 fursavers.... i never got paid by her too...
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Post by catstina on Mar 22, 2012 6:11:28 GMT -5
Don't know anything about this woman or organization, but from reading the stories on your facebook, I'm glad I don't!
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Post by AmyJo27 on Mar 22, 2012 12:20:44 GMT -5
I dunno why I thought Spindletop was an APBT breeder.... ???
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Post by johnr on Mar 22, 2012 12:40:55 GMT -5
I dunno why I thought Spindletop was an APBT breeder.... ??? Her own dogs are registered dogs and she bred occasionally. She did some real good, but she doesn't seem to know how even how to tell the truth. She has left a lot of people who were big supporters monetarily or otherwise frustrated and embittered. I went down to help her twice with hurricane evacuations. The first time was a rewarding experience. The second time was a misery of non-stop soap opera that left me feeling I was somehow "in the way", even as I helped with slog labor and posted on the internet a bunch of stuff that brought in thousands of dollars in donations. She stiffed me and my wife for further thousands of dollars. Oh, and when we had firm plans for her to come up to NJ to help ME through a crisis, she decided that she couldn't make it. She's convinced that she had a good excuse. I'm convinced that no matter what was going on, she would have found SOME excuse. What sucks is that her rapport with and knowledge of the dogs, Pit Bulls in particularly, but not just them, is truly top notch. Perhaps, I conclude in light of some of Emily's FB posts, her knowledge of basic veterinary care was a little sparse in places. But she handles dogs well and knows how to train. She might have been something great if she understood how to deal openly and honestly with people. She should have gotten her 501c3 squared away early and gotten a real fundraising committee to bring in donations rather than pestering friends and colleagues for loans that she stiffed us on. But I know from conversations that she feared having a real board of directors. Control freaks always do. |
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Post by johnr on Mar 22, 2012 12:52:48 GMT -5
Oh, conversely, there were good reasons to fear being on a Spindletop board. You become legally liable for what goes on in any organization on whose board you serve. I knew enough to decline the "honor" when Leah was supposedly putting a board together. So what I really mean is that if Leah had started right from the outset with a real board that exercised real oversight, Spindletop could have been a real force for good. But life is full of "coulda, shoulda, wouldas" that aren't worth stewing over. Leah never wanted a real board exercising real oversight. So Spindletop ended up what it is, rather than what it might have been. It's a shame, but there's no use in looking back now.
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Post by emilys on Mar 22, 2012 15:18:45 GMT -5
Oh, conversely, there were good reasons to fear being on a Spindletop board. You become legally liable for what goes on in any organization on whose board you serve. I knew enough to decline the "honor" when Leah was supposedly putting a board together. So what I really mean is that if Leah had started right from the outset with a real board that exercised real oversight, Spindletop could have been a real force for good. But life is full of "coulda, shoulda, wouldas" that aren't worth stewing over. Leah never wanted a real board exercising real oversight. So Spindletop ended up what it is, rather than what it might have been. It's a shame, but there's no use in looking back now. she put someone on the list of board members without asking that person for permission... when she got in trouble in Texas for some employment issue, that board member was made a party to the suit (though the board member was able to prove she was NOT a board member and escaped further difficultly) The dog she bred carried a serious genetic disorder, ataxia and several of the offspring also developed the disease. Ataxic dogs should never be bred. |
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Post by AmyJo27 on Mar 22, 2012 15:26:28 GMT -5
I think ^ is what I read about...
Id be curious to find out how many "Pit Bull Rescues" breed Pit Bulls too....... :/
...Poor dogs
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Post by johnr on Mar 22, 2012 15:36:44 GMT -5
Oh, conversely, there were good reasons to fear being on a Spindletop board. You become legally liable for what goes on in any organization on whose board you serve. I knew enough to decline the "honor" when Leah was supposedly putting a board together. So what I really mean is that if Leah had started right from the outset with a real board that exercised real oversight, Spindletop could have been a real force for good. But life is full of "coulda, shoulda, wouldas" that aren't worth stewing over. Leah never wanted a real board exercising real oversight. So Spindletop ended up what it is, rather than what it might have been. It's a shame, but there's no use in looking back now. she put someone on the list of board members without asking that person for permission... when she got in trouble in Texas for some employment issue, that board member was made a party to the suit (though the board member was able to prove she was NOT a board member and escaped further difficultly) The dog she bred carried a serious genetic disorder, ataxia and several of the offspring also developed the disease. Ataxic dogs should never be bred. It was specifically employment law stuff that made me tell her that I could not possibly sit on her board. |
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Post by bubsy on Mar 22, 2012 17:38:43 GMT -5
Crazy stuff, I really haven't heard much about her since Hurricane Katrina. Now I know why.
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Post by odnarb on Mar 24, 2012 23:43:33 GMT -5
I think ^ is what I read about... Id be curious to find out how many "Pit Bull Rescues" breed Pit Bulls too....... :/ ...Poor dogs As long as everything is separate, there is no problem. Responsible breeders SHOULD be involved in rescue! Sent from my DROID BIONIC using ProBoards |
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Post by johnr on Mar 25, 2012 8:10:12 GMT -5
I think ^ is what I read about... Id be curious to find out how many "Pit Bull Rescues" breed Pit Bulls too....... :/ ...Poor dogs As long as everything is separate, there is no problem. Responsible breeders SHOULD be involved in rescue! Sent from my DROID BIONIC using ProBoards Correct. My only issue with Leah's breeding is that there were problems with several of those breedings. She got into the breed by taking over this bloodline and THEN got heavy into rescue. There is nothing ignoble in the least with this aspect of her resume and she bred her dogs quite a bit less often than some self proclaimed responsible breeders. But when problems arose, she should have let the bloodline go extinct, as most eventually do. And indeed, she may well have done so in the interim. I don't know. I'm not in touch and don't intend to get back in touch. |
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Post by odnarb on Mar 25, 2012 11:04:26 GMT -5
I knew a lot of people who were into her dogs more due to the scarcity of the blood rather than the dogs themselves. I agree that perhaps it's not worth resurrecting the line if they are riddled with problems. I've not heard of any dogs coming from her for a long, long time, but I'm not as in touch with the AmStaf community as I used to be.
Fortunately, there are still some Rolls/Humes dogs out there, as well as a DNA test for Ataxia.
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Post by loverocksalot on Mar 25, 2012 16:50:54 GMT -5
Wow Im in the dark. I remember hearing the name way back but then I think it was all excitement for Spindletop and the place to get a dog. At least that is what comes into my mind when I hear the name.
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Post by emilys on Mar 25, 2012 19:17:40 GMT -5
Wow Im in the dark. I remember hearing the name way back but then I think it was all excitement for Spindletop and the place to get a dog. At least that is what comes into my mind when I hear the name. so interesting, CA! 10 years ago, Spindletop was THE pit bull rescue. Now it seems, hardly anyone knows about her. Whatever she is doing is just riding on the what used to be. It's really a shame... but of course she has only herself to blame. As always, the dogs suffer... |
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Post by loverocksalot on Mar 25, 2012 20:29:39 GMT -5
Wow Im in the dark. I remember hearing the name way back but then I think it was all excitement for Spindletop and the place to get a dog. At least that is what comes into my mind when I hear the name. so interesting, CA! 10 years ago, Spindletop was THE pit bull rescue. Now it seems, hardly anyone knows about her. Whatever she is doing is just riding on the what used to be. It's really a shame... but of course she has only herself to blame. As always, the dogs suffer... Yeah well I have only had Rocky for 6 1/2 years and new not even a tiny bit about Pit Bulls or rescues or anything about dogs period. So I guess I need to be enlightened or maybe not important since she is not doing anything. |
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I look forward to learning much here