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Post by michele5611 on Sept 7, 2012 8:44:55 GMT -5
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Post by johnr on Sept 7, 2012 9:19:26 GMT -5
I had to reply. There IS an upside. But there IS a downside. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Sept 7, 2012 9:20:57 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting blog. I still pretty much disagree with using these sorts of promotions to hock shelter animals but maybe it's an opinion based out of feeling rather than fact? The idea of getting someone to "adopt now because these dogs are on sale!" vs "I'm not quite ready for a dog, so I'll wait a little while; there is no sale going on anyway" makes me uneasy......
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Post by michele5611 on Sept 7, 2012 10:10:19 GMT -5
John I absolutely agree with your comment.
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Post by johnr on Sept 7, 2012 10:14:02 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting blog. I still pretty much disagree with using these sorts of promotions to hock shelter animals but maybe it's an opinion based out of feeling rather than fact? The idea of getting someone to "adopt now because these dogs are on sale!" vs "I'm not quite ready for a dog, so I'll wait a little while; there is no sale going on anyway" makes me uneasy...... Yes, I'm afraid that these people are counting gross adoptions and only gross adoptions when evaluating these programs. Even retailers don't look only at gross sales w/o considering returns and other issues. But retailers also aren't on a humane mission. If the refrigerator you sold on the cheap ends up in a bad situation. who could possibly care? Not so with animals. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Sept 7, 2012 10:20:08 GMT -5
Saw your comment on the blog, John. I'm in agreement.
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Post by catstina on Sept 7, 2012 10:35:01 GMT -5
Maybe I should post a comment about the customer who came into PDog with an 8 year old Weimaraner she adopted at a free dog event at the local shelter. She had absolutely no breed education and was in over her head. She came into the store to buy a no pull harness and was not sure she wanted to keep the dog because of her crazy personality.
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Post by michele5611 on Sept 7, 2012 10:39:15 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting blog. I still pretty much disagree with using these sorts of promotions to hock shelter animals but maybe it's an opinion based out of feeling rather than fact? The idea of getting someone to "adopt now because these dogs are on sale!" vs "I'm not quite ready for a dog, so I'll wait a little while; there is no sale going on anyway" makes me uneasy...... Yes, I'm afraid that these people are counting gross adoptions and only gross adoptions when evaluating these programs. Even retailers don't look only at gross sales w/o considering returns and other issues. But retailers also aren't on a humane mission. If the refrigerator you sold on the cheap ends up in a bad situation. who could possibly care? Not so with animals. I have always said what is the "return" rate and or fate of these turbocharged pets. A lot of emphasis on quick adoption by some groups. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Sept 7, 2012 10:52:54 GMT -5
I really liked this blog, and the thoughtful comments. Definitely worth some pondering. Has anyone looked at those studies/reports the blog mentioned? Also, what about what the author keeps mentioning: that free/low cost adoptions does NOT = shoddy placement practices, and shoddy placement practices can and do happen with or without free/low cost adoption.
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Post by johnr on Sept 7, 2012 12:59:12 GMT -5
I really liked this blog, and the thoughtful comments. Definitely worth some pondering. Has anyone looked at those studies/reports the blog mentioned? Also, what about what the author keeps mentioning: that free/low cost adoptions does NOT = shoddy placement practices, and shoddy placement practices can and do happen with or without free/low cost adoption. Well, he's right as far as it goes. Even places that charge a premium have made placements that went to hell, whether they will publicly admit it or not. I am well positioned to gauge a fair amount of the BS quotient out there. I hear about disastrous placements by people who claim never to have had a bad one. One place that has its schnoot waaaay high in the air over its supposedly high state of the art placement process had a dog it placed seized by the SPCA. I know because this is where the SPCA brought it. We've had quite a few of their animals come through here. I would never rub their face in the mud over some bad placements. EVERYONE has them. But not everyone pretends that they are way to go for that. But if the guy just means that some bad placements will happen no matter what and not all free adoptions are bad placements, big deal. No kidding. The question is whether resorting to "sales" and trimming the screening process to increase gross adoption really produces a net positive benefit. I think the jury is still out. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Sept 7, 2012 13:04:26 GMT -5
But if the guy just means that some bad placements will happen no matter what and not all free adoptions are bad placements, big deal. No kidding. The question is whether resorting to "sales" and trimming the screening process to increase gross adoption really produces a net positive benefit. I think the jury is still out. Good point. |
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