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Post by RealPitBull on Jun 27, 2013 9:31:13 GMT -5
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Post by perseus on Jun 27, 2013 10:47:40 GMT -5
Sounds good Mary. I think the only thing that might be an issue for some ( and I really just don't know - I don't have enough knowledge and experience to have an informed opinion) is the Amstaff being the exact same thing as the APBT. This is something I was just reading about yesterday and here is a several years old thread I came across. interesting getting people who are heavily involved w the purebred dogs opnion. www.game-dog.com/showthread.php?t=36743&page=1 Thought you might enjoy reading it.
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Post by RealPitBull on Jun 27, 2013 10:51:17 GMT -5
Yeah I'm well aware of the controversy between the APBT vs AST. I did mention that some don't agree with it, but it depends on how you define "breed". I think it's silly, personally, for people to consider the APBT and AST different, yet still consider many UKC APBTs to still be the same thing as the ADBA APBT. Of course there are some people that think nothing but gamebred APBTs are APBTs, too.
Having owned both, I think they are the same thing, just bred differently. Like a working GSD vs a show GSD. Same breed, just different lines.
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Post by pitbullmamaliz on Jun 29, 2013 8:27:34 GMT -5
I really like it and will share it when you post it. :-)
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Post by melonie on Jun 29, 2013 12:24:34 GMT -5
I saw this on my phone the other day, but wanted to read it on my computer... just now found it. Of course I have to go to work. Here is an inforgraphic I repinned on pinterest with a blurb correcting their terminology. pinterest.com/pin/24980972906068005/I'm thinking RPB should do an infographic on the history of the breed. Use that to link back to your blog post.
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Post by hammer on Jun 29, 2013 20:06:16 GMT -5
I found it very informative, of course I have less knowledge re: the subject than you folks. Still it made sense to me. Thanks for posting it, and the links to the other 2 reads.
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Post by loverocksalot on Jun 29, 2013 22:09:46 GMT -5
Thank You, this is great!
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Post by adoptapitbull on Jun 30, 2013 7:33:09 GMT -5
Very nice! It should be easily understood by those "There's no such thing as a Pit Bull" people.
Are you going to touch on the whole color v. breed issue soon? It drives me nuts when people think their dog is a different breed, or type, all because of nose color (and sometimes even then they get the nose color wrong...oy)
And where the heck did "Is your dog English or American?" come from? That always bewilders me!
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Post by catstina on Jun 30, 2013 16:43:37 GMT -5
Lab for Labrador Retriever, Golden for Golden Retriever, Shepherd for German Shepherd Dog might be some good examples to use, as well.
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Post by RealPitBull on Jul 1, 2013 6:55:29 GMT -5
Very nice! It should be easily understood by those "There's no such thing as a Pit Bull" people. Are you going to touch on the whole color v. breed issue soon? It drives me nuts when people think their dog is a different breed, or type, all because of nose color (and sometimes even then they get the nose color wrong...oy) And where the heck did "Is your dog English or American?" come from? That always bewilders me! Thanks! This is what we have on our website as far as the color thing goes: "Red or blue nose dogs are: a special type of Pit Bull / rare / worth more than black nose dogs": The answer to all of the above is: FALSE!!! Let's talk color in Pit Bulls.
Pit Bulls are traditionally a performance breed. That means that they were originally bred based on how well they performed a certain task, not what they looked like. Color was probably the least important thing that old-time breeders of Pit Bulls considered. Today, Pit Bulls remain largely a working/performance dog, and so the old way of doing things as far as looks are concerned largely still holds fast. True, many Pit Bulls today are also bred with the show ring in mind, however color is of almost zero importance even in that venue. No one who really knows Pit Bulls is all that impressed by color. A flashy color does not a good dog make, and although many people have favorite colors, breed savvy people know that it's what's under the coat that counts.
Pit Bulls come in almost every color that is genetically possible in dogs. Some colors are more common (brindle or fawn for instance); some colors you don't see as often (such as spotted or black and tan). One thing is for certain, however: blue and red nosed dogs do NOT fall into the "rare" category - there are many of both colors out there, especially (at least in my area) the red nosed dogs.
There is, unfortunately, a faction of breeders (all unscrupulous), that are attempting to cash in on the current fad of blue and red nosed dogs. These people produce poor quality animals with no thought to health and temperament, their biggest selling point being coat color. Breeders of this type many times charge jacked up prices for their puppies, justifying the high price tag by claiming their dogs are of a "rare" or "special" color. The unsuspecting buyer is duped into believing their animal is extraordinary simply because he happens to have an "odd" colored nose. Breeders of this ilk are especially dubious because not only are they producing bad stock, but they lure their customers in by making false claims. Do not be fooled by this type!
There are, of course, very ethical breeders that produce blue and red nosed dogs. There are many fine, healthy, stable examples of these color varieties out there. These are dogs bred by people who care about the breed, are knowledgeable about what they are doing, and breed for MUCH more than just a snazzy color. There is nothing wrong with liking one color above another, but one should be an educated consumer. Realize that you aren't just buying a pretty face, but a living, breathing creature that is going to make real demands and require money to care for, time, and patience.
Some people have the mistaken belief that blue or red nosed dogs are a special "type" of Pit Bull. When speaking of such dogs, these sorts are apt to make statements such as, "I have a blue Pit", or "My dog is the red nosed kind". Let's replace "brindle" with "red-nosed": "My dog is the brindle kind." Sort of silly, no? Brindle is just a color a Pit Bull may be, not a "kind" of Pit Bull. Well, ditto red and blue. There is a specific line of Pit Bull known for its red noses; this is the Old Family Red Nose strain. But this was a tight-knit family of dogs bred closely because of their superior ability in the pit. The genetic closeness of the dogs made it easy to pass on certain traits--it just so happens that the traits of the Old Family dogs included not only gameness, but the genes for red noses as well.The "English/American" thing you bring up - I think maybe people read a snippet or two of history or someone misstates something, and then it turns into "pit bull pop culture". Like they get SBTs ("English" Pit Bulls) confused with APBTs? Just a guess. Who knows where half of the crap people believe comes from.
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