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Post by RealPitBull on Feb 23, 2009 22:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by snipe on Feb 23, 2009 22:30:41 GMT -5
what region is this?
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Post by pistis on Feb 23, 2009 22:39:24 GMT -5
omgosh- i wish i lived closer and could help...i would die if this happened to me, shes beautiful i cant believe it....
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Post by andreacassel on Feb 24, 2009 12:21:51 GMT -5
I have some friends in OK - will call them and ask them to be on the look out..
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Post by maryellen on Feb 24, 2009 12:46:00 GMT -5
poor pup. but if the owners didnt leave her unattended this wouldnt have happened. i hope she is found safe
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 24, 2009 12:48:31 GMT -5
I feel for the owner, too but geez, a 9 wk old puppy left in a yard unsuped?? And she was rescued originally?? !
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Post by RealPitBull on Feb 24, 2009 12:59:45 GMT -5
poor pup. but if the owners didnt leave her unattended this wouldnt have happened. i hope she is found safe Yup, I thought the same thing.
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Post by andreacassel on Feb 24, 2009 13:27:52 GMT -5
Unsupervised puppy at 9 weeks - I can't imagine. I do hope she is found though - Oklahoma has a fairly large underground dog fighting problem and that is scary for such a baby..
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 24, 2009 13:55:23 GMT -5
Bet she wasn't spayed, either...puppies, puppies, puppies, infinity plus one.
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Post by andreacassel on Feb 24, 2009 14:58:15 GMT -5
She couldn't have been spayed at 9 weeks - that's to early for most vets to do that.
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 24, 2009 15:04:01 GMT -5
Not true...many vets are offering pediatric alters now and growing. Both of mine were altered at 7 weeks.
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Post by andreacassel on Feb 24, 2009 15:18:14 GMT -5
Way cool - maybe do that and the microchip at the same time. I will ask about it - thanks!!
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Post by maryellen on Feb 24, 2009 17:05:39 GMT -5
we used to speuter pups at 7 weeks when i did rescue.
yep, when you spay get the dog microchipped as well the same time. trust me, that 14 gauge needle will make you want to pass out if you saw it..
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Post by valliesong on Feb 25, 2009 18:14:48 GMT -5
we used to speuter pups at 7 weeks when i did rescue. yep, when you spay get the dog microchipped as well the same time. trust me, that 14 gauge needle will make you want to pass out if you saw it.. Aww, it's not that bad. I've chipped probably a couple hundred cats. I do think cat skin takes it more easily than dog skin, though. Sometimes the dogs bleed a tiny bit. Some of the dogs seem to think it is like a bee sting, but the cats don't seem to notice at all. The funny thing is, of everything that happens to an animal when they come into the shelter (weighing, vaccines, etc.) they seem to dislike the oral worming the least.
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Post by snipe on Feb 25, 2009 18:26:20 GMT -5
Not true...many vets are offering pediatric alters now and growing. Both of mine were altered at 7 weeks. is it true that for some larger breeds (for the males) you should wait until it is done growing before altering so that they can develop better with testosterone.
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 25, 2009 20:22:34 GMT -5
There have been studies showing that biological development and testosterone production affects the growth plates. Basically, going through puberty "tells" the growth plates to stop growing. In a study I have read and other resources, ped alters will allow the dogs to grow taller, however unless the dog is a show prospect, it should be a non-issue. There are pros and cons to everything and many decisions are left to the owner, unless the dog is coming through rescues with a ped alter policy, such as ours. The only viable con with ped spays is a higher incidence of incontinence but I have not had an issue with my female and she's 3.5 years old now. The vast reduction of propensity/possibility of certain types of cancers outweigh any conformation issues. My male is no leggier than I would have expected him to be had he been neutered at a later age, nor is my female. The procedure is less expensive, less invasive and much easier on puppies than older pups/adults. My two were up and playing as soon as they came out of the gas "fog". Also, Cajun never marked and only started lifting his leg once he hit about 2.5 years old which was a great thing for me. No need to hit every bush, tree, etc. He now hikes, but he'll do it in the middle of the yard and when he pees, he's peeing out of necessity not b/c he needs to send out a pee-mail every 2 feet.
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Post by crystalbbr on Feb 25, 2009 22:54:56 GMT -5
My most recent dog had a ped neuter, and I wish I had my other 3 done as a ped as well. It just seems like he took the surgery in stride so much better...he came home the same day, just glue & no stitches, and bounced back quickly from the anesthesia where my other guys had to stay overnight and were still goofy the next day.
And the only difference I can tell is that he is now 1 1/2 and he doesn't hike his leg...and I don't care if he ever does lol
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Post by lola1 on Feb 25, 2009 22:55:03 GMT -5
I don't know anything about pros/cons of spay/neuter as far as development, but we got Lola spayed at 3 1/2 months. Basically just to get it done. She hasn't had any problems so far. She's now 11 months old. Reed wasn't neutered until he hit the rescue at 6 months old and he just now lifts his leg, and he doesn't even do that every time. I knew for sure that I wouldn't be breeding at all, so I was very happy to get it done. I also thought that Lola would recover quicker because she was young. I know canine health and human health are different but I am in the medical field and know that most times younger is better as far as surgeries etc.
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Post by valliesong on Feb 26, 2009 0:02:10 GMT -5
The last shelter I worked for did peds., and let me tell you, they recovered so much more quickly! Contrary to popular thought, pediatric S/N has been around since the 80s, and no real problems have been reported. An slightly increased incidence of incontinence in females has been suggested.
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Feb 27, 2009 23:05:25 GMT -5
Pediatric alters have been around for some time, most vets are getting on board, mostly those who are more advanced and are active in advancements in the field.
There are still many vets which dismiss early age alters, however.
The main group that I have encountered within the responsible dog owning community are those with working breeds who have issues with the biological developmental concerns. These are valid arguments among working breed owners though typically a non-issue in regards to rescued dogs.
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