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Post by tank on Mar 16, 2009 16:15:59 GMT -5
www.chainfreeasheville.orgI just wanted to share this site with you guys. This is the city I live in. I think this organization is just great. The way they tackle chained dogs, is that people report chained dogs to them and the have days where they go out with volunteers and build fences for those people and sometimes give them some pet supplies and a free spay neuter. I think they also give out dog houses. They obviously do work on chaining laws too, but the proactive part really impresses me. I wish I had a car so I could help out with this. I'd love to volunteer my time to build fences for chained dogs.
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Post by andreacassel on Mar 16, 2009 16:55:05 GMT -5
Wow - pretty cool!!!! Wish we had something like that down here.
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 17, 2009 9:04:03 GMT -5
Whoa, that sounds AMAZING!!! I love that they are not about demonizing people who chain, they are about education and helping the people out while simultaneously helping the dogs. Fantastic!
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Post by jsoria on Mar 17, 2009 9:12:59 GMT -5
Well here is my view (sorry don't hate on me now)
If you chain your dog and you are being responsible about it, they why is it bad?
As we all know APBTs are excellent excape artist, they can dig or jump over the fence.
I just don't get why people have to go and get in other people's business in the first place.
I am just trying to understand - thats all....
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 17, 2009 9:58:48 GMT -5
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Post by jsoria on Mar 17, 2009 10:21:44 GMT -5
Yeah that is a long thread, lol
I do have friends that own this breed and have them chained up.
Of course most places you can't do that now, but if its better for a dog to be tied up then jumping the fence or being crated for 8hrs while you are at work, being responsible about it I don't see anything wrong about it.
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Post by andreacassel on Mar 17, 2009 10:35:50 GMT -5
The chaining issue is not about people that are responsible with it - it is more about the dogs that spend most of their lives on chains.
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Post by bamapitbullmom on Mar 17, 2009 11:55:38 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think there is any responsible way to chain a dog. Having a dog on a tether while supervised for short periods of time I can understand if there is no fence. Chaining as a method to contain a dog, where the dog will be on it unsupervised is extremely irresponsible in my opinion.
As for some dogs being escape artists, there are other alternatives to leaving a dog unsuped in a fenced yard. I crate my dogs but both individually are also reliable loose in the house. No fear of them being stolen out of the yard, poisoned, shot, teased, accidentally let out, attacked by other animals, bitten by a snake, left to exposure to hot, cold, rainy weather...
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Post by tank on Mar 17, 2009 12:20:48 GMT -5
Well, I still think this organization is great. They actually educate and help people who feel they have no other options instead of just calling animal control, who probably can't do much anyhow.
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Post by bubsy on Mar 17, 2009 12:58:56 GMT -5
Tank, you're in Asheville? I love Asheville, it's on my list of places to move to :-)
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Post by andreacassel on Mar 17, 2009 13:34:18 GMT -5
Tank - that organization is awesome!!
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Post by tank on Mar 17, 2009 14:33:12 GMT -5
Yah, I love Asheville. If you're ever in town let me know.
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Post by jsoria on Mar 17, 2009 14:38:23 GMT -5
I just think that how your take care of your dog is your business and how I take care of my dog is my business. Thats all,  |
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Post by tank on Mar 17, 2009 14:50:36 GMT -5
Not if your dog is not taken care of or not given enough shelter or water or food. Or if you mistreat or abuse your dog. Then yes, it is my business how you take care of you dog.
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Post by pjsurratt on Mar 17, 2009 14:59:53 GMT -5
There are a lot of chained dogs in the South. It breaks my heart. I've got a good friend who has a pom inside and a golden who stays chained in the yard 24/7, his entire 6 year life. It is none of my business. I wonder how that golden feels. I wonder why her husband even got that dog. He works 12 hours a day, rotating shifts. When I ask her If she wants to join us at the park or bring golden boy over for a playdate, she looks at me like I'm a space alien and tells me I'm crazy.
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Post by RealPitBull on Mar 17, 2009 15:10:06 GMT -5
Chained dogs are sooo heart-breaking. I just feel so so so bad for them.
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Post by andreacassel on Mar 17, 2009 16:15:36 GMT -5
I fully understand that sentiment. I think it is because we accept our pets as family members, and not as pets, that we feel this way (I mean - you would not chain your kids up outside would you?).
Of course, we also "crate" our dogs while we are away. And, some people might view that in the same way that we view chaining. We know that we are doing this for the animals safety (so they don't chew an electric wire, or take off through a glass window after the squirell that has been teasing them for a week, etc.) but still some people may not see our POV and think it is unfair to the animal.
I don't know what the solution would be (chaining vs. crating vs. loose in yard/house). I guess, the best solution would be a pet day care (for those that can afford it) but what about those of us that can't?
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Post by bubsy on Mar 17, 2009 16:53:22 GMT -5
I don't know what the solution would be (chaining vs. crating vs. loose in yard/house). I guess, the best solution would be a pet day care (for those that can afford it) but what about those of us that can't? I don't think being crated all day is a good thing...but if I had to choose between crate and outside, I'd choose crate. I can't control what happens outside. I would never leave a dog outside in my city, especially not an APBT. Some guy stopped me a few months back, he was putting up flyers for his missing APBT girl. She disappeared from his yard, and he believed someone stole her. I would be sick to death if that happened to me. In my house, if the dog is reliable out of the crate, I separate dogs in different rooms. My cats also have their own room...everyone is behind a closed door. |
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Post by valliesong on Mar 17, 2009 19:10:26 GMT -5
Bubsy, I do the same as you do. Two dogs are crated, one dog is loose, and the cats have their own room. When I move, depending how the house is set up, I would like to have two dogs in rooms and one crated.
I can't trust my foxhound because sometimes she chews on things. If she would get an electrical wire or poison herself, I'd never forgive myself. I already had one scare where the cats knocked a medication off the counter and she chewed the bottle and ate the pills. Now all the pills are in canisters, but I know she could chew through that as well, given enough time.
My feelings on chains (AND kennels) are pretty simple. They are to be used as a supervised method of temporary confinement - NOT a lifestyle. If you have too many dogs to keep them housed inside and socialized, you have too many dogs.
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