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Post by adoptapitbull on Jan 22, 2012 8:13:34 GMT -5
I hope you guys can follow this link and see this thread. It's about someone's livestock guardian dog killing chickens, and the replies about how to stop the dog. You'll know exactly why I'm freaking out in just a minute... www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=15398Maybe I'm the crazy one here, but is that truly how you train a LGD? It sounds like Cesar's BS x10! |
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Post by catstina on Jan 22, 2012 9:17:16 GMT -5
A  puppy. A 5 month old puppy!! How does it help in the task of guarding livestock to make the dog petrified of chickens??? How do you prevent that fear from transferring onto the things the dog is supposed to be guarding against??? That is one of the most disgusting things I've read in a while! |
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Post by loverocksalot on Jan 22, 2012 10:33:00 GMT -5
WOW WTF
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Post by maryellen on Jan 22, 2012 11:10:10 GMT -5
omfg.... i am apalled at the responses.. that poor jrt and other dogs ...just wow...
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Post by adoptapitbull on Jan 22, 2012 11:25:31 GMT -5
Apparently, she does the same to a wether (neutered goat) when he bullies her. She knocks him to the ground, lays on him, and starts smacking and yelling at him.
Yes, you do need to stand up to livestock, but that is too far. Standing your ground or charging back at them gets the point across just the same.
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Post by johnr on Jan 22, 2012 13:24:54 GMT -5
Apparently, she does the same to a wether (neutered goat) when he bullies her. She knocks him to the ground, lays on him, and starts smacking and yelling at him. Yes, you do need to stand up to livestock, but that is too far. Standing your ground or charging back at them gets the point across just the same. Yep, that's just it. Standing up to animals doesn't mean you need to knock them down, let alone knock them silly. If nothing else, doing the latter is dangerous and I question the sanity of anyone who wants to get into a knock down drag out with a terrier OR a goat! I do have to say, however, that when you are talking about animals killing your other animals, we are no longer talking about teaching sit stays and I'd be utterly loathe to say that all aversives are out of bounds here. P+ means stimuli that tend to diminish or extinguish a given behavior. Extinguishing a behavior is exactly what you want to do here, though I must also say that allowing a friggin' terrier to run with your chickens is stupid human behavior likely more easily cured by kicking your own stupid self in the @$$ than suppressing the small animal prey drive in a terrier will ever be! |
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Post by fureverywhere on Jan 22, 2012 20:49:42 GMT -5
OMG!!! The banjo pickers would be scared of these people, tying chickens to the dawg and...
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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 23, 2012 8:52:02 GMT -5
I wish I could say this sort of thing surprises me, but people do some real shitty things to dogs in the name of training. Makes me very sad for dogs. So, so sad.
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Post by fureverywhere on Jan 23, 2012 23:42:44 GMT -5
Can't change the world...know what ahm sayin'?
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Post by perfectpit on Jan 24, 2012 0:11:44 GMT -5
Wow just Wow
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Post by melonie on Jan 24, 2012 1:52:42 GMT -5
ok, I am so not opening that link.
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Post by RealPitBull on Jan 24, 2012 8:21:38 GMT -5
^ Wise choice, Melonie.
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I look forward to learning much here