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Post by perseus on Dec 6, 2012 12:17:31 GMT -5
There isn't any other rescue out there that I am aware of that has had so many complaints over such a long period of time as SPBR. These are all just a bunch of disgruntled ex fosters? Mary I am merely speaking in general of any rescue - pick one, any one and there will be a shit ton of drama with emotions running high and people with an axe to grind exploiting the emotions of people who want to jump on the bandwagon. I just have been very discouraged lately about the dogs that I love getting the short end of the stick because of people. That particular quote taken by itself, which is how intended it, does carry a huge amount of truth imo. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Dec 6, 2012 12:20:06 GMT -5
There isn't any other rescue out there that I am aware of that has had so many complaints over such a long period of time as SPBR. These are all just a bunch of disgruntled ex fosters? Mary I am merely speaking in general of any rescue - pick one, any one and there will be a shit ton of drama with emotions running high and people with an axe to grind exploiting the emotions of people who want to jump on the bandwagon. I just have been very discouraged lately about the dogs that I love getting the short end of the stick because of people. That particular quote taken by itself, which is how intended it, does carry a huge amount of truth imo. OH yes, it does. I agree with you. I just do not happen to believe SPBR is innocent of the majority of things Eric gets accused of. Like, taking an unvaxed dog to a pet fair, said dog attacks another dog at the fair, then SPBR dumping the dog at AC and dog subsequently getting euth'd, with all the documents online to prove it.  |
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Post by perseus on Dec 6, 2012 12:28:34 GMT -5
Mary I am merely speaking in general of any rescue - pick one, any one and there will be a shit ton of drama with emotions running high and people with an axe to grind exploiting the emotions of people who want to jump on the bandwagon. I just have been very discouraged lately about the dogs that I love getting the short end of the stick because of people. That particular quote taken by itself, which is how intended it, does carry a huge amount of truth imo. OH yes, it does. I agree with you. I just do not happen to believe SPBR is innocent of the majority of things Eric gets accused of. Like, taking an unvaxed dog to a pet fair, said dog attacks another dog at the fair, then SPBR dumping the dog at AC and dog subsequently getting euth'd, with all the documents online to prove it. I probably should have prefaced that my comment was not directed towards this particular situation - truth is I know nothing about it. I just saw that and thought hell yeah that is so right on. |
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Post by catstina on Dec 6, 2012 12:50:11 GMT -5
SPBR is not the victim here. The dogs that have been in there care are the victims.
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Post by michele5611 on Dec 6, 2012 13:35:42 GMT -5
Def. something to be said that someone will always have an axe to grind or not like a particular rescue/group- which is why I look to see if it is just one or two people who have had a bad experience or quite a few.
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Post by catstina on Dec 6, 2012 13:47:13 GMT -5
Or, in this case, AT LEAST 500 people...
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Post by michele5611 on Dec 6, 2012 13:51:08 GMT -5
^ Yes SPBR has more than one or two haters!
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Post by perseus on Dec 6, 2012 14:08:58 GMT -5
ok...i get it. SPBR is a bad place, not debating it, never heard of it. This comment, "The rescue world is a very ugly place, quite honestly, and most of the ugliness gets started on FB.", I thought it profound,rang true for me and i commented to that end. That is all.
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Post by michele5611 on Dec 6, 2012 14:19:32 GMT -5
No argument from me here that a lot of drama is started on facebook. While I have never been and prob. never will be a huge facebook fan (I am starting to be a bit more active) it does give people the venue to start shit but on the flip side it can also bring people together.
Further to your point yes the rescue world is often a very ugly/political arena.
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Post by perseus on Dec 6, 2012 14:30:30 GMT -5
No argument from me here that a lot of drama is started on facebook. While I have never been and prob. never will be a huge facebook fan (I am starting to be a bit more active) it does give people the venue to start shit but on the flip side it can also bring people together. Further to your point yes the rescue world is often a very ugly/political arena. Absolutely on the bringing together and all that goes with it.  |
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Post by sharron on Dec 6, 2012 21:59:20 GMT -5
Thank you so much. I will check twitter and the others out.
I can say in all honesty, that another friend of mine that started his own pit bull rescue had dealings with Eric over the years. Worked pulling dogs with him and all that. One day I received a very disturbing email from him stating things he saw going on with Eric and the dogs.
At the time I thought it was because he and Eric had a falling out and he was trying to get back at Eric for what ever reason. Not true as I think about my friend. He is an up-stnding guy that loves the dogs , and will go that extra mile to get them vetted and cared for. Hearing him though, it isn't an extra mile, it is simply what he does and loves each and every dog that he rescues and comes across !
I will in deed check everything out that you sent me. Thanks so much !
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Post by maryellen on Dec 7, 2012 16:51:25 GMT -5
i am pretty sure eric is a member here too or was a few years ago when this stuff happened a few years ago.. he is on all the forums disputing everything everyone said over the years..
the ONLY good thing i used to be able to say about eric was that he did pediatric speutering.
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Post by sharron on Dec 9, 2012 4:38:56 GMT -5
Thanks.maryellen , I did check out pitbull talk. Very disturbing to say the least.
I noticed these claims all started in 2008. Has anyone else come forward with anything recent ?
I ask this because a few years ago, another member of SPBR contacted me regarding his dealings with Eric and what he observed first-hand. He had had enough and quit !! Since then , he started his own rescue ,
which is fabulous ! No dog gets short-changed. They get vetted, rabies shots , the whole enchalida , as the saying goes !lol !!
If Eric is an attorney , why doesn't he have an office or practice law with other attorney's ?
Just curious .
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Post by maryellen on Dec 9, 2012 8:07:41 GMT -5
i dont know if he works at an attorneys office anymore, he used to a long time ago. he built himself a huge mansion near his parents home many years ago so he did work i think at some point
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Post by sharron on Dec 10, 2012 5:49:20 GMT -5
When I met him he was working at Pitney Bowes. Although he was employed there he found time from his office to gather dogs and take trips.
From the photos I have seen of his parents and their home, they are of means.
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Post by maryellen on Dec 10, 2012 6:20:47 GMT -5
erics house that he built is very nice as well... he built it from scratch its a huge mansion . he rented backhoes etc to do alot of the yard work himself. at $350 a pop per puppy and he gives most vaccines himself and gets discounts on speutering that is alot of money...... add up all the dogs he adopted out and pups adopted out mulitiply that by $350 and he is making a ton of money....
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Post by RealPitBull on Dec 10, 2012 13:17:49 GMT -5
Eric is not here unless he sneaked on using a fake name.
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Post by maryellen on Dec 10, 2012 18:09:35 GMT -5
he will probably have one of his kool aid members join, once something is posted about him or his rescue his members get wind of it then they join and try to turn things around, it happened on the other forums as well.. this whole thing is a mute issue, no one can shut him down and he will keep operating the way he is
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Post by sharron on Dec 11, 2012 4:50:48 GMT -5
When he lived in Conneticut , the house he rented was also huge. Two story with a huge yard
I remain a member of his forum,because I like the people. I am totally for the dogs though.
My advice to people comes from my heart and the experiences I have had with pit bulls over many years. If only I had someone to ask for advice when I started out ! lol !! I learned the hard way !! No , I wouldn't trade my experience for anything !
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Post by megan on Mar 20, 2013 7:35:03 GMT -5
Just as an update to this, a post from yesterday. The investigation is on-going so there aren't a lot of details, but wanted to share with any folks interested.
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