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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 17, 2008 14:43:55 GMT -5
The offical UKC standard says the following about size/weight. PLEASE keep these figures in mind - dogs deviating from these numbers too far in either direction (especially the higher end) are NOT correct! Don't get duped by breeders passing off large/giant APBTs as APBTs or better than the CORRECT APBT.
[glow=green,2,300] This is NOT A GIANT/LARGE BREED! DO NOT SUPPORT the breeders that produce oversize APBTs!!! [/glow]
If you want a large/giant bulldog or mastiff breed, there are plenty to choose from. Just don't hand over money to unethical/unscrupulous breeders charging insane amounts of money for BADLY BRED, INCORRECT dogs being passed off as APBTs.
UKC Standard:
Desirable weight for a mature male in good condition is between 35 and 60 pounds. Desirable weight for a mature female in good condition is between 30 and 50 pounds.
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 17, 2008 14:45:14 GMT -5
The AADR standard says: SIZE The breed has Historically been of great size variation, however, Males are perferred not over 70 pounds and Females are perferred not over 60 pounds, as extremely large dogs seldom show fluid and agile movement. Please see the AADR site for some examples of CORRECT APBTs: www.online-aadr.com/Standard.htmlCompare these dogs to some of the dogs being passed off as "APBTs" by breeders out simply to make a buck and promote their distorted version of the APBT. |
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 17, 2008 14:53:22 GMT -5
From the ADBA "Basis for Conformation" in the APBT:
Above all the American Pit Bull Terrier is an all around athlete. His body is called on for speed, power, agility and stamina. he must be balanced in all directions. Too much of one thing robs him from another.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Apr 23, 2008 10:44:53 GMT -5
Every one thinks Boomer is a Boxer-mix because he is almost 9 months old and weighs 45lbs! People think a APBT is a dog with a huge block head, REALLY wide shoulders and weighs no less than 80 lbs.!!! DUH! No wonder why APBT's are getting banned:People dont even know what a APBT is!!!
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 23, 2008 10:56:31 GMT -5
Every one thinks Boomer is a Boxer-mix because he is almost 9 months old and weighs 45lbs! People think a APBT is a dog with a huge block head, REALLY wide shoulders and weighs no less than 80 lbs.!!! DUH! No wonder why APBT's are getting banned:People dont even know what a APBT is!!! People with really correctly-sized APBTs routinely get asked "what breed" and then look  when told, "APBT". A friend of mine (who is also a member here although I haven't seen her on the forum lately), owns a LOVELY little rescued female who really is a head-turner - correct size, conformation, and perfect little rose ears. She is, I believe 45 pounds or somewhere around that weight. She gets told all the time, "That's so SMALL for a Pit Bull!" Meanwhile she is ideal. It's sad when the general public, and even so-called breed fanciers have no idea what a real Pit Bull looks like, and think that THIS is normal: www.strictlytheblues.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/quake2.jpg |
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Post by windowdog on Apr 23, 2008 11:17:42 GMT -5
I have to admit I was a little surprised how small my pit is, 51 lbs currently. I like big dogs, usually much bigger than that. I think the rescue group gave me a pit thinking that if I could handle a 115 lb rotty-lab mix then I wouldn't be scared of a pit. She's solid muscle, but you can't tell without petting her really, unless she stretches.
I usually stay out of pedigree fights like the one going on around the American Bully, I'm a pro-mutt person honestly. But I have to say that every time you see a pit in a paper or magazine in relation to them being aggressive or an attack it seems like the picture shows one of the ripped muscle bound dogs. That really isn't helping all the thousands of pits waiting for adoption right now. Bully look intimidating, I'd even go so far as to say that's what they're bred for. So what happens to those dogs when they end up in shelters, do you really think parents want to bring home a intimidating looking dog to their kids? No matter what the dog's temperament is most people choose on looks (sadly). Bullys essentially being bred to make them less adoptable.
Add to that the name confusion and you're hurting the chances of all the smaller pits as well. I agree a pit isn't for everyone, but there are lots of suitable adopters who won't take them in just based on their name. Even my dog is listed as a "terrier mix" on the rescue website just to get over the APBT name aversion.
Pits have a PR problem no doubt. Breeding extra powerful looking versions is just compounding the problem.
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Post by AmyJo27 on Apr 24, 2008 8:38:10 GMT -5
Yes I have actually had people try to argue with me telling me Boomer is a LAb/Boxer!!! I really dont think he resembles either one of them! His coloring is similar to a Boxer but his body is completly different! But I guess that shows how knowledgeable people are the the APBT breed!
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 24, 2008 12:08:14 GMT -5
I have had people ask me on quite a few occasions if my BLUE dog is a Boxer. People dunno nuttin about breed ID'ing  |
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Post by bullymommy25 on Apr 25, 2008 20:47:45 GMT -5
yes, we get told that Stella is small ALOT!! This was last summer (with my husband) in August/early September when she was about 7 months old, which was about when she hit her near-full height in inches. She's added just a little muscle, but not an excessive amount. We have to upload new pics soon, but here is an idea of the size that some people consider "small"  |
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Post by emilys on Apr 28, 2008 19:53:56 GMT -5
yeah, and the AKC standard for the AST says "ears cropped or uncropped, the LATTER preferred", but tell that to the judges, and to the breeders who believe their dogs can't win with natural ears.
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Post by jenn on Apr 29, 2008 17:44:38 GMT -5
Tyler just turned 6 months on the 19th and she currently weighs around 23 to 25 lbs. People often stop me and comment on her stance and coloring but then they add on "she should eat a little more, she is way too small." One guy told me she needed to add on about 45 pounds to reach her full potential. I later saw him walking his pit.... it was huge compared to Tyler. At least 80lbs.
Are these pits at greater risk for diseases? Is the life span of these larger pits in jeopardy due to them just being bigger? I've seen some "low riders" who seem to always be out of breath and their workout is a basic walk around the block. The three lowriders that I have seen don't seem to be overweight. I can see an outline of their ribs. Yet they seem to have breathing problems, why is this?
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Post by bullymommy25 on Apr 29, 2008 19:22:03 GMT -5
emily... as u can see, Stella's ears are flappin in the breeze!!!
jenn don't even worry about it, most people don't know what they're talking about. Your dog will keep adding height for a few more months (2 or 3) and then she will fill out a bit!
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Post by RealPitBull on Apr 30, 2008 7:22:20 GMT -5
Tyler just turned 6 months on the 19th and she currently weighs around 23 to 25 lbs. People often stop me and comment on her stance and coloring but then they add on "she should eat a little more, she is way too small." One guy told me she needed to add on about 45 pounds to reach her full potential. I later saw him walking his pit.... it was huge compared to Tyler. At least 80lbs. Are these pits at greater risk for diseases? Is the life span of these larger pits in jeopardy due to them just being bigger? I've seen some "low riders" who seem to always be out of breath and their workout is a basic walk around the block. The three lowriders that I have seen don't seem to be overweight. I can see an outline of their ribs. Yet they seem to have breathing problems, why is this? I see the bully Pit Bulls (low riders/short-n-wides) becoming increasingly unathletic and yes, with their exaggerated traits and larger sizes there will certainly be health problems to follow. Hip displaysia, breathing problems, heart trouble, and more. Just look at the AKC show Bulldog - a classic case of taking a breed that was once atheltic and graceful to the extreme point of being so unnatural as to be unable to breed without the aid of humans. |
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Post by bullymommy25 on Apr 30, 2008 11:11:51 GMT -5
and sadly, not as much "hang time" as my lil baby gets =)
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Post by angelpit on May 1, 2008 14:10:32 GMT -5
I have people asking me left and right what my dogs are because they are correct size. The only one that they don't ask me about is Diesel because he is a low rider. He is short and wide but he is a year and only weighs 55lbs and I don't see hin getting any bigger. It annoys me because like everyones else says no wonder they get banned people don't even know what they look like.
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Yes, he is a Pitbull. He would love it if you pet him!
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Post by mageedog on May 2, 2008 20:37:08 GMT -5
I can't tell you how many people we weeded out instantly in the review process when I worked in Pit rescue based on this statement: "I want a Pit at least 100#". Those apps went in the cylidrical file in the corner! LOL
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Post by RealPitBull on May 3, 2008 9:11:48 GMT -5
I can't tell you how many people we weeded out instantly in the review process when I worked in Pit rescue based on this statement: "I want a Pit at least 100#". Those apps went in the cylidrical file in the corner! LOL Pretty simple, right? ;D |
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Yes, he is a Pitbull. He would love it if you pet him!
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Post by mageedog on May 3, 2008 12:20:40 GMT -5
Very simple!
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Post by maryellen on Jun 13, 2008 8:51:46 GMT -5
i have been told Rufus is a rottweiler, and that Ruby CANT be a pitbull as she is too small.. people ask me all the time, what is she? i say, apbt. they say, she cant be she is too tiny.. i say, thats the true standard... its hysterical.
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Post by valliesong on Jun 13, 2008 17:53:06 GMT -5
Most of the pits around here are still close to standard size, and the majority of people label Roscoe correctly as a pit bull. Many of them think Aiden is pure pit, too, but he is sooooooooo obviously part shar pei. Occasionally we see low rider ghetto dogs around here, but most of our pit bulls actually look like pit bulls.
I have had arguments with coworkers at the shelters about labelling the larger dogs APBTs. I think they should be listed as pit mixes, or in many cases, pit/ambull mixes. I have also seen a lot of shelters labelling the low riders as pit bull/english bull dog mixes.
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